softrack Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 I'm backing up 2 laptops to a Mac server (G5's hard drives) over an ethernet network using the Backup Server feature of Retrospect 6. The server is running OS X 10.3.9. Restrospect is version 6.0.212. The file selectors says: Include files matching - Selector: All Files Except Cache Files but always exclude files matching - Selector: Music OR Selector: Spotlight-V100 files When the script runs the backup log reports it was successful, however the only files backed up are a folder called ".Spotlight-V100" and 5 files in it. Yet there are new photos, changes to Entourage's email database, etc. on each laptop and none of them are getting backed up! Any ideas why this isn't working right? Maybe I should just make a regular script and forget the whole backup server thing. I just want it to back up changes at night anyway. I've never really understood WHY I should use backup server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekr0phage Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Hi, Backup server allows Retrospect to run for a period of time rather than at a specified time, this way if there are any backup sources that fail Retrospect has the opportunity to try again. For the selector - I would suggest creating a duplicate of the All Files Except Cache Files selector, then putting additional exclusion statements on it. Also, be sure to preview your selector to see what will be backed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softrack Posted June 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Thanks for the advice. But that didn't seem to help anything. Also I've discovered the same behavior (not backing up new or changed files, and backing up the ones that were excluded) is also happening on several regular backup scripts set to backup other machines, not just the Backup Server scripts for laptops. They all seem to get the Spotlight V-100 folder that I've specifically excluded, and fail to get new or changed files that it should get with "Include all files except cache files." These are incremental backups, not the first time it is run. Again, the selector says: Include All Files except Cache Files But exclude Selector Music or Selector Spotlight V-100 files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twickland Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Quote: Again, the selector says: Include All Files except Cache Files But exclude Selector Music or Selector Spotlight V-100 files Can I assume from your terminology that you have written a custom selector (i.e., one listed under Special> Selectors)? Within a script, the same feature is termed "file selection criteria." If so, what did you name the selector? If you go to the misbehaving script and click on "Selecting," exactly what does it show? The behavior you're seeing is exactly what you'd expect if you created the custom selector you describe above, and then wrote it in your script thusly: "and always exclude [My Custom Selector]." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softrack Posted June 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Nothing is custom as far as I know. I believe the selectors chosen are standard ones. I simply opened the script window, clicked on "Selecting" it shows this: Include files matching Selector All Files Except Cache Files But always exclude files matching Selector Music or Selector Spotlight-V100 files The options chosen are: Back up every one day Verification on Match only same files Don't backup FileVault sparseimages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltr Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 hi jrc, the 'Spotlight-V100 files' selector isn't standard as far as i know. i definitely don't have it here. what happens if you don't exclude that selector? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twickland Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I don't have the Spotlight selector in my configuration (I assume because I'm not running Tiger), so I can't see how it's written. If that selector is intended to exclude (rather than find) the Spotlight files, that would explain the backwards behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softrack Posted June 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 OK, I'll drop that one and see what happens tonight during the regular backup time. I don't recall creating it, but maybe someone else did back when we upgraded to version 6. I looked at it's definition and it excludes a folder whose name contains ".Spotlight-V100" in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softrack Posted June 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 It excludes a folder whose name contains ".Spotlight-V100" in it. Perhaps you're right about it making it backwards acting. Like a double-negative in a sentence. I've deleted that condition in the script and we'll see what happens tonight when the laptop backup script (backup server) runs. Thanks for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltr Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 hi jrc, sounds good. one more piece of advice: i believe that the current version of Retrospect (6.1.126 as of this writing) excludes Spotlight files by default. if backing them up is a problem, (and it could be) i would recommend upgrading as it is free. http://www.emcinsignia.com/updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softrack Posted June 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Thanks, I'll do that! Do you know if 6.1.126 is compatible with OS X 10.4.6? I'm considering upgrading the server to the latest version of Tiger (up from 10.3.9). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltr Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 hi jrc, yes, i'm currently running 6.1.126 on 10.4.6 and not having any problems. of course, you should wait to upgrade the OS until you have a good backup..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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