jt1326 Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 I have Retro Multi Server v6.5.319 and an Ecrix VXA AutoPak 15 tape autoloader, slot 15 is the cleaning tape. The way we had it setup under BackupExec was a full backup on Friday (which ran from Fri PM to Sun AM) and incrementals on M, T, W, Th. We kept an eye on the tapes in the AutoPak and when we knew the tapes needed to be rotated, we took out the ones just used and put in older used ones to recycle. The Full backup tapes were kept offsite for at least one month, with the last Fri of the month pulled out and kept as a permanent off-site archival copy. How would I set this up using scripts? To keep it simple, would I only need to create one backup set and just add new media and recycle old media for use? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated (haven't had a good backup in about 1 1/2 weeks; the suits are breathing down my neck! ) Thanks, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Quote: Joe Traverso said: To keep it simple, would I only need to create one backup set and just add new media and recycle old media for use? You could do this, but it would make it hard to restore from older sets of backups if needed. Don't use Recycle on Friday. Use the "new media" action. This will create a new backup set with a new name, allowing you to do the Friday Full and the normal the rest of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1326 Posted October 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 So does that mean I'll have 2 separate scripts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 One script. The "new media" action will automatically update the script to the new destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1326 Posted October 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Forgive my ignorance, but I'm not understanding. Could you run through this step-by-step for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 You can add it as part of the script schedule or go to Configure>backup Sets, get properties on the set. Click Options>action>New Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1326 Posted October 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Still unsure about this. I was successfully able to do a New Media Backup over the weekend. Now what do I do? Do I do a Normal backup to the same Backup Set? Do a Normal Backup to a new set? I'm unclear as to how to set it up so that Mon thru Thurs will be an incremental of the previous weekend's full. Help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 If you do a normal backup to the set each day following the "new" backup, then Retro will just copy the new or changed files since the prior time you used that backup set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1326 Posted October 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Do I do the normal backup to the same backup set? And how do I tell it to use blank media, not append to the full backup media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1326 Posted October 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 I set it to create a New Media set for the incremental, but it appears to be doing a full backup again, not an incremental. Why would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 When you do a "new" backup, it creates a new set with [001] at the end of the name. It then copies all files, because it is a new backup set. You can not do "incremental" to the set the first time you use it because it is a "new" set requiring the initial full copy of all the data. After the new takes place, you can do a "normal" to the [001] set just copying changes since the last time you used the [001] backup set. The user's guide provides some examples and our technical support can also help explain it in detail over the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1326 Posted October 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 I have already done the "new" backup over the weekend. Now I want to do the "normal". But how can I keep it from appending to the "new" tapes (already used over the weekend) and choose new/erased media sitting in the autoloader? It seems that the default behavior is to append to the backup set's media (10 of the 14 tapes in the autoloader were used for the "new" backup over the weekend), but I want it to start with the four erased tapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Go to Configure>backup Sets, get properties on the set. Click Options>action>skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1326 Posted October 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 OK, that seems to be working. But the backup is taking FOREVER for just an normal backup. Is there something else to look at to increase the speed? Does it have to compare to the snapshots? Or is there some other, faster way to do the normal (incremental) backups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 What type of performance are you seeing? When does it seem slowest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1326 Posted October 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Well, when I used Veritas, it took about 5/6 hours, so it was able to do it during the night. I just cancelled the backup job at just over 17 hours! This is WAY too long. I'm starting to think that I should go back to Veritas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 The long time is probably releated to the backup of NTFS permissions. The process is very slow if you have a high file/folder count. We are working on fixing this so the snapshot creation is quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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