griffel Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Hi, I have a job running that backups a file that is 45GB and we groom after 3 Days. So one would think that the disk needed would be 45*3=135GB. The grooming is working fine but why is the .rdb files remaining and growing ? Insted of 135gb it is recuiring at the time 350GB, and growing. Thanks! //MJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Grooming keeps a certain number of backups, not a certain number of days. You should check the file size immediately after grooming. The size increases with every backup until you run grooming the next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffel Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 When I check the numbers of backups it is correct, 3 Days. But why is there .rdb files from when the job was created (a couple of weeks ago), when I check other jobs its the same, grooming works fine and leveas only tha numbers of backups that I have choosen. But all of them has .rdb files from when the backupset was created. So they all need more backupspace then one would think. Like in this case I thought that 150GB would be enough but it is just going to grow every day even if the grooming does its job. I understand tha the first backup i the fullbackup then it is just incremental but when we sell to customers they pay for the diskspace used, and it should not be more then in this example 3*45=135GB, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 When I check the numbers of backups it is correct, 3 Days. It SHOWS only 3 backups, but the older backup still takes up space until grooming actually runs. (And it's still not "days", it's the number of "backups" ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffel Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 But the gooming runs every 3 Days. We want to save 3 backups and it only shows 3 backups when I look in the Snapshotstab, BUT when I look in the backupfolder the rdb files are all there from the first backup was taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 It never shows more than 3 backups. We keep 5 backups and it shows 5 backups: I click on Add. Now you see that I have 9 backups actually in the backup set (and I have selected number 9 for my computer). Now I click retrieve and get 6 backups: Note that number 6 is locked and I have to "forget" it manually. The old rdb files indicates that you have backed up files during the first backup that are still there (and hasn't changed since). Start a "restore" to see which files you have actually backed up that you didn't want to backup. (You can cancel the restore after you have browsed the files.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffel Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 When I click add, I only see one, when I start a restore i can only choose from 3 backups 2/10, 3/10, 4/10. So I can't restore older then 3 backups. It is only 2 files that is backed up. and they change every day. So why is the rdb files filling up and requiring so much space?, it should only need 135GB, not 300 and growing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Did you actually try a restore as I asked? How many files can you restore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffel Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 This it what it Lookes like. Only 3 backups are shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 In the first screen shot, what if you click on "More Snapshots", what do you see? You are right, there are only two files. But there may still be an older backup containing older files, see paragraph above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffel Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 This is what I have under More Snapshots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Interesting. It looks just fine and yet you have old rdb files and the backup set keeps growing. I would try creating a new backup set, run that at least a week and then delete ("forget") this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffel Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 But the thing is when I look at other backupsets that we groom after 14 Days (backups) they to have rdb files from when the backupset first was created and run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Let us say you have a file on a client that was created in 2010. It has not changed since then and not deleted. Say you create a backup set and schedule backups starting in 2011. You keep the last 14 backups. This backup has now been running for about two years and has been groomed numerous times, but the rdb files containing the file I mentioned should still be there and should still be dated 2011. Now, for THIS backup set, where the files indeed change for every backup, it is a mystery why the old rdb files are still there. Back to the example above: The file is now deleted (from all clients). The rdb files should be deleted by grooming after 14 backups. (If the file is partly in an rdb file, that file should be modified by grooming after 14 backups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chal4oye Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 They all need more backupspace then one would think. Like in this case I thought that 150GB would be enough but it is just going to grow every day even if the grooming does its job. I understand tha the first backup i the fullbackup then it is just incremental but when we sell to customers they pay for the diskspace used, and it should not be more then in this example 3*45=135GB, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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