kessler Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 I am using Retrospect 5.0.238 in OSX 10.2.6 and am getting this error message "Can't save catalog, error -45 (file locked)" when doing a recycle backup from my boot HD to a second HD I use exclusively for backups. The "Combined File Backup Set" is 18.59 GB and the "Backup Set Catalog" is 46.9 MB. This happened at the very end of the backup run and there were no other errors. I'd be grateful for any thoughts? DSK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeDave Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 Quote: The "Combined File Backup Set" is 18.59 GB and the "Backup Set Catalog" is 46.9 MB. A Combined File Backup Set does not have a seperate Catalog file. Why did you refer to them in this way (I'm grasping for clues here...)? There have been a handful of users reporting this, although I've never seen it on any of my backups. - How many files in the Backup Set? (look at the Summary tab in Configure->Backup Sets->Configure) - What does the Options field of that same Summary tab show? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeDave Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 Quote: from my boot HD to a second HD I use exclusively for backups Please describe your hardware setup, such as the model of Macintosh, the type of "second HD," etc. Is there any reason to suspect that this second drive may have experienced intermittend communication with the computer itself? Remember, you can't always trust the wording of a programe's error; there may well be another reason. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kessler Posted May 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Hi Dave, Thanks for the response. Under the "Configure" tab of the main Retrospect directory, if you choose "Backup Sets", select a backup set and choose "Configure". In the next window select "Options" under Catalog and you'll see a "Combine" button (move catalog into the same file as data). When I created this backup set it generated separate File backup and Catalog files. I'm tempted to combine the two files, but will wait on your thoughts. As you say, in previous versions of Retrospect there was only a single file. Used: 18.6G for 122,539 files. Options field: Normal, Separate catalog. DSK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kessler Posted May 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 The computer in question is a dual 1.25Ghz PowerMac G4 Mac with 1 GB RAM running OSX 10.2.6. It has 2 internal ATA 120 GB hard drives. One drive is partitioned for OSX (110 GB) and OS9 (10 GB). The other drive is not partitioned. I have no reason to believe that either drive is malfunctioning. I recently ran disk utility to check and repair disk permissions and only a couple minor errors were corrected, none of which appered to have anything to do with Retrospect. Please ask me for any other information that might be helpful. Thanks again, DSK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeDave Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Quote: I'm tempted to combine the two files, but will wait on your thoughts. With 122,000 files you probably can't combine the Backup Set again; there's some magic cutoff where you can, based on the number of files, so trying and failing to combine the set won't be a helpful test. - One thing I suggested to another user was to Forget, then re-add the backup set. But that user complained that the Backup Set became locked between uses; you have said that your backup was progressing normally whe you got the error? - Did you have the Verify option on? Did the error occur during the Compare pass (you said "the very end")? - There is a Secret Preference (option+click on Preferences) for File System logging; I'd suggest turning that on and hope for helpful information. - Can you copy and paste the relevant portion of the Log, showing the beginning of the Backup through the error? - Does this Backup Set continue to be unusable? Can you make a new Backup Set and use that successfully? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kessler Posted May 27, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 I've included the log back to May 7 when things seemed to have worked normally. As I looked over the log I found a few other errors-not sure about the sigificance of those. Also, this problem may have something to do with the scheduled monthly recycle backup. Verify is on, I turned File System logging on, and the backup set seems to be usable. I haven't tried making a new backup set yet-if i do should I combine the File backup set wth the catalog? DSK _______________________________________________________ ∆ Retrospect version 5.0.238 automatically launched at 5/7/2003 3:00 AM + Retrospect Driver Update, version 3.1.105 + Normal backup using EasyScript Backup at 5/7/2003 3:00 AM To backup set Kessler Office G4… * Resolved container Local Desktop container to 3 volumes: Mac OS X Mac OS 9 Archive - 5/7/2003 3:00:20 AM: Copying Mac OS X… 5/7/2003 3:03:01 AM: Comparing Mac OS X… File “Operations Log”: different data size (set: 99,384, vol: 99,442), path: “Mac OS X/Library/Preferences/Retrospect/Operations Log”. 5/7/2003 3:03:09 AM: 1 execution errors. Completed: 481 files, 30.6 MB, with 0% compression Performance: 152.8 MB/minute (114.6 copy, 229.2 compare) Duration: 00:02:49 (00:02:25 idle/loading/preparing) - 5/7/2003 3:03:09 AM: Copying Mac OS 9… 5/7/2003 3:03:09 AM: No files need to be copied. 5/7/2003 3:03:13 AM: Execution completed successfully. Duration: 00:00:04 (00:00:04 idle/loading/preparing) - 5/7/2003 3:03:13 AM: Copying Archive… 5/7/2003 3:03:13 AM: No files need to be copied. 5/7/2003 3:03:17 AM: Execution completed successfully. Duration: 00:00:04 (00:00:04 idle/loading/preparing) 5/7/2003 3:03:17 AM: 1 execution errors. Total performance: 152.8 MB/minute with 0% compression Total duration: 00:02:57 (00:02:33 idle/loading/preparing) Quit at 5/7/2003 3:03 AM ∆ Retrospect version 5.0.238 automatically launched at 5/8/2003 3:00 AM + Retrospect Driver Update, version 3.1.105 + Normal backup using EasyScript Backup at 5/8/2003 3:00 AM To backup set Kessler Office G4… * Resolved container Local Desktop container to 3 volumes: Mac OS X Mac OS 9 Archive - 5/8/2003 3:00:15 AM: Copying Mac OS X… ∆ Retrospect version 5.0.238 launched at 5/22/2003 4:23 PM + Retrospect Driver Update, version 3.1.105 + Recycle backup using EasyScript Backup at 5/22/2003 4:23 PM To backup set Kessler Office G4… * Resolved container Local Desktop container to 4 volumes: Mac OS X Mac OS 9 Archive Kessler20 5/22/2003 4:23:46 PM: Recycle backup: The backup set was reset - 5/22/2003 4:23:46 PM: Copying Mac OS X… Can't read file “VolumeCheck.stbings”, error -43 (file/folder not found), path: “Mac OS X/Library/Receipts/Java1.4.1.pkg/Contents/Resources/sv.lproj/VolumeCheck.stbings”. Can't read file “classes.nib”, error -1407 (unknown), path: “Mac OS X/System/Library/Frameworks/GLUT.framework/Versions/A/Resources/fi.lproj//classes.nib”. Can't save catalog, error -108 (not enough memory). 5/22/2003 5:46:25 PM: Execution incomplete. Remaining: 2 files, 2 KB Completed: 122472 files, 23.1 GB, with 19% compression Performance: 295.2 MB/minute Duration: 01:22:39 (00:02:45 idle/loading/preparing) 5/22/2003 5:46:25 PM: Execution incomplete. Total duration: 01:22:39 (00:02:45 idle/loading/preparing) Quit at 5/22/2003 6:39 PM ∆ Retrospect version 5.0.238 launched at 5/22/2003 6:39 PM + Retrospect Driver Update, version 3.1.105 Quit at 5/22/2003 6:40 PM ∆ Retrospect version 5.0.238 launched at 5/22/2003 6:40 PM + Retrospect Driver Update, version 3.1.105 + Recycle backup using EasyScript Backup at 5/22/2003 6:48 PM To backup set Kessler Office G4… * Resolved container Local Desktop container to 3 volumes: Mac OS X Mac OS 9 Archive 5/22/2003 6:48:54 PM: Recycle backup: The backup set was reset - 5/22/2003 6:48:54 PM: Copying Mac OS X… 5/22/2003 7:52:36 PM: Comparing Mac OS X… File “Operations Log”: different data size (set: 102,898, vol: 102,957), path: “Mac OS X/Library/Preferences/Retrospect/Operations Log”. File “SystemEntropyCache”: different modification date/time (set: 5/22/2003 6:57:12 PM, vol: 5/22/2003 7:57:12 PM), path: “Mac OS X/private/var/db/SystemEntropyCache”. File “ntp.drift”: different creation date/time (set: 5/22/2003 6:56:41 PM, vol: 5/22/2003 7:56:41 PM), path: “Mac OS X/private/var/run/ntp.drift”. File “Extensions.mkext”: miscompare at data offset 2,471,679, path: “Mac OS X/System/Library/Extensions.mkext”. File “SCIMTool”: miscompare at data offset 42,751, path: “Mac OS X/System/Library/Components/SCIMTool.app/Contents/MacOS/SCIMTool”. 5/22/2003 9:06:35 PM: 5 execution errors. Completed: 122532 files, 23.1 GB, with 19% compression Performance: 348.9 MB/minute (385.3 copy, 318.8 compare) Duration: 02:17:41 (00:02:29 idle/loading/preparing) - 5/22/2003 9:06:39 PM: Copying Mac OS 9… Trouble matching Mac OS 9 to Kessler Office G4, error -24201 (chunk checksum didn't match). - 5/22/2003 9:06:42 PM: Copying Archive… 5/22/2003 9:06:42 PM: No files need to be copied. 5/22/2003 9:06:46 PM: Execution completed successfully. Duration: 00:00:04 (00:00:04 idle/loading/preparing) 5/22/2003 9:06:46 PM: Execution incomplete. Total performance: 348.7 MB/minute with 19% compression Total duration: 02:17:52 (00:02:36 idle/loading/preparing) + Normal backup using EasyScript Backup at 5/23/2003 3:00 AM To backup set Kessler Office G4… * Resolved container Local Desktop container to 3 volumes: Mac OS X Mac OS 9 Archive - 5/23/2003 3:00:20 AM: Copying Mac OS X… Internal consistency check failed: Assertion check at "elem.c-822" 5/23/2003 3:02:50 AM: Execution incomplete. Completed: 7 files, 4288 KB, with 0% compression Performance: 62.8 MB/minute Duration: 00:02:30 (00:02:26 idle/loading/preparing) Quit at 5/23/2003 10:47 AM ∆ Retrospect version 5.0.238 launched at 5/23/2003 10:47 AM + Retrospect Driver Update, version 3.1.105 + Executing Verify at 5/23/2003 10:49 AM To backup set Kessler Office G4… Can't save catalog, error -45 (file locked). 5/23/2003 10:49:30 AM: Execution incomplete. + Executing Verify at 5/23/2003 10:50 AM To backup set PB.back… 5/23/2003 11:12:58 AM: Execution completed successfully. Completed: 70823 files, 13.2 GB Performance: 588.1 MB/minute Duration: 00:22:49 + Executing Recatalog at 5/23/2003 11:51 AM To backup set Kessler Office G4… Can't save catalog, error -45 (file locked). 5/23/2003 11:51:53 AM: Execution incomplete. + Executing Verify at 5/23/2003 11:53 AM To backup set Kessler Office G4… Can't save catalog, error -45 (file locked). 5/23/2003 11:53:09 AM: Execution incomplete. Quit at 5/23/2003 1:01 PM ∆ Retrospect version 5.0.238 launched at 5/23/2003 6:52 PM + Retrospect Driver Update, version 3.1.105 Quit at 5/23/2003 6:52 PM ∆ Retrospect version 5.0.238 automatically launched at 5/24/2003 3:00 AM + Retrospect Driver Update, version 3.1.105 + Normal backup using EasyScript Backup at 5/24/2003 3:00 AM To backup set Kessler Office G4… * Resolved container Local Desktop container to 3 volumes: Mac OS X Mac OS 9 Archive - 5/24/2003 3:00:21 AM: Copying Mac OS X… ∆ Retrospect version 5.0.238 launched at 5/26/2003 3:59 PM + Retrospect Driver Update, version 3.1.105 + Normal backup using EasyScript Backup at 5/26/2003 3:59 PM To backup set Kessler Office G4… * Resolved container Local Desktop container to 3 volumes: Mac OS X Mac OS 9 Archive - 5/26/2003 3:59:38 PM: Copying Mac OS X… 5/26/2003 3:59:38 PM: Execution stopped by operator. Quit at 5/26/2003 4:18 PM ∆ Retrospect version 5.0.238 launched at 5/26/2003 6:31 PM + Retrospect Driver Update, version 3.1.105 + Normal backup using EasyScript Backup at 5/26/2003 6:31 PM To backup set Kessler Office G4… * Resolved container Local Desktop container to 3 volumes: Mac OS X Mac OS 9 Archive - 5/26/2003 6:31:42 PM: Copying Mac OS X… 5/26/2003 6:34:34 PM: Comparing Mac OS X… File “Operations Log”: different data size (set: 107,756, vol: 107,815), path: “Mac OS X/Library/Preferences/Retrospect/Operations Log”. File “access_log”: different data size (set: 60,205, vol: 61,033), path: “Mac OS X/private/var/log/cups/access_log”. File “page_log”: different data size (set: 235,267, vol: 235,444), path: “Mac OS X/private/var/log/cups/page_log”. 5/26/2003 6:34:47 PM: 3 execution errors. Completed: 281 files, 63.2 MB, with 18% compression Performance: 216.4 MB/minute (172.1 copy, 291.3 compare) Duration: 00:03:05 (00:02:30 idle/loading/preparing) - 5/26/2003 6:34:48 PM: Copying Mac OS 9… 5/26/2003 6:35:45 PM: Comparing Mac OS 9… 5/26/2003 6:36:23 PM: Execution completed successfully. Completed: 1865 files, 160.3 MB, with 32% compression Performance: 237.4 MB/minute (223.6 copy, 253.0 compare) Duration: 00:01:35 (00:00:14 idle/loading/preparing) - 5/26/2003 6:36:23 PM: Copying Archive… 5/26/2003 6:36:23 PM: No files need to be copied. 5/26/2003 6:36:37 PM: Execution completed successfully. Duration: 00:00:14 (00:00:14 idle/loading/preparing) 5/26/2003 6:36:37 PM: 3 execution errors. Total performance: 229.1 MB/minute with 28% compression Total duration: 00:04:55 (00:02:58 idle/loading/preparing) + Normal backup using EasyScript Backup at 5/27/2003 3:00 AM To backup set Kessler Office G4… * Resolved container Local Desktop container to 3 volumes: Mac OS X Mac OS 9 Archive - 5/27/2003 3:00:19 AM: Copying Mac OS X… 5/27/2003 3:02:57 AM: Comparing Mac OS X… File “Operations Log”: different data size (set: 109,524, vol: 109,583), path: “Mac OS X/Library/Preferences/Retrospect/Operations Log”. File “access_log”: different data size (set: 274,068, vol: 274,275), path: “Mac OS X/private/var/log/cups/access_log”. 5/27/2003 3:02:58 AM: 2 execution errors. Completed: 15 files, 5380 KB, with 0% compression Performance: 52.5 MB/minute (28.6 copy, 315.2 compare) Duration: 00:02:39 (00:02:27 idle/loading/preparing) - 5/27/2003 3:02:58 AM: Copying Mac OS 9… 5/27/2003 3:02:58 AM: No files need to be copied. 5/27/2003 3:03:13 AM: Execution completed successfully. Duration: 00:00:15 (00:00:15 idle/loading/preparing) - 5/27/2003 3:03:13 AM: Copying Archive… 5/27/2003 3:03:13 AM: No files need to be copied. 5/27/2003 3:03:27 AM: Execution completed successfully. Duration: 00:00:14 (00:00:14 idle/loading/preparing) 5/27/2003 3:03:27 AM: 2 execution errors. Total performance: 52.5 MB/minute with 0% compression Total duration: 00:03:08 (00:02:56 idle/loading/preparing) Quit at 5/27/2003 3:03 AM ∆ Retrospect version 5.0.238 launched at 5/27/2003 5:59 PM + Retrospect Driver Update, version 3.1.105 Quit at 5/27/2003 6:03 PM ∆ Retrospect version 5.0.238 launched at 5/27/2003 6:07 PM + Retrospect Driver Update, version 3.1.105 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeDave Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 You originally wrote: >I am using Retrospect 5.0.238 in OSX 10.2.6 and am getting this error >message "Can't save catalog, error -45 (file locked)" when doing a recycle >backup from my boot HD to a second HD I use exclusively for backups. After asking for more information, you offered your log, which included these three entries that detailed three "file locked" errors: + Executing Verify at 5/23/2003 10:49 AM To backup set Kessler Office G4? Can't save catalog, error -45 (file locked). 5/23/2003 10:49:30 AM: Execution incomplete. + Executing Recatalog at 5/23/2003 11:51 AM To backup set Kessler Office G4? Can't save catalog, error -45 (file locked). 5/23/2003 11:51:53 AM: Execution incomplete. + Executing Verify at 5/23/2003 11:53 AM To backup set Kessler Office G4? Can't save catalog, error -45 (file locked). 5/23/2003 11:53:09 AM: Execution incomplete. Quit at 5/23/2003 1:01 PM What's striking is that none of these three is a Recycle Backup, but is instead are Repair or Verify operations. It's impossible to attempt to trouble shoot issues without knowing exactly what's going on. Information that doesn't match the log only confuses things. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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