scsctech Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 so where is the beta? it was supposed to be released 'early' this week. no updates on the twitter either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Do you want it right? Or do you want it fast? I'd rather have the former... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 We have one critical bug we are trying to fix before the beta. We are also trying to get backup set backwards compatibility in. I hope the beta is this week, could be early next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcomiskey Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Do you want it right? Or do you want it fast? I'd rather have the former... Shouldn't we all have asked that question before 8 was released in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredturner Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Do you want it right? Or do you want it fast? I'd rather have the former... Well....regarding Retrospect 8 in general, I'd rather have *both*, but thus far we've gotten *neither*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhwalker Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Hey, let's not kick the dog. We should all applaud that EMC software release procedures may be headed in the right direction. Someone at EMC had the courage to insist that this release be done right. People are working hard. Let's cut them some slack. And I agree with Steve Maser. I don't know about the rest of you, but it's a significant chunk of my time to shake out a major piece of software like this prior to putting it into production, doing regression tests, etc., to ensure reliability. I'd rather not waste my time, and I don't care if it "crashes fast". Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 I can say that most of the customers already trying this version have given us great feedback about much improved stability and performance. It's those big customer sites that have really made this new version so much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniels Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 What is going to be the build number of the Beta? We know it will start with 8.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Considering they are probably cranking out an internal build every day, it'll be whatever the build number is when they package up the beta for release, I'm sure. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabay Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 I hope you will fix this strange bug with German localization, too. I mean that one with rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 The beta is found at: http://forums.dantz.com/showtopic.php?fid/139/tid/34049/pid/139236/post/last/#LAST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabay Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Ouh, I have to wait until it works with subfolders and 10.5. My desktop is still on 10.5 (does anybody here know if Logic 7 works with 10.6? :-P ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabay Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Okay, I switched to Snow Leopard due to other issues, so I could try RS 8.2 out. Now it runs (I guess), but again, after starting, I don't see any activities. This was one of the big problems. When I start the console, I'd like to see immediately, what is happening. The engine is working, I see that from the process manager (or how it's called). I really wonder if you don't have this problem :-/ Mac Pro, 10.6.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabay Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Hey, I don't believe it! It's gotten WORSE! When I NOW launch a VPN connection, then RS 8.2 it waiiits and waiiits and waiiits (what the ... does it?! mdnsresponder connects, nothing more), until the VPN connection closes. 8.1 managed to connect to the share, when the script was chosen. I really start to HATE this app! :-((( I guess I'm going back to 8.1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabay Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Okay ... I have to recall that! This time it was not Retrospect's fault, it seems. Due to my switch to 10.6, SMB, VPN etc. was a big hassle. It seems (?) now one has to mount the share manually, then it works. I haven't found out yet. But now there is something with netbios that hadn't been relevant before. Sorry for my snatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabay Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Well ... as I've written in an other topic ... RS8.2 STILL tries to connect, to connect, to connect and to connect (or: to resolve, to resolve, to resolve, to resolve ...) – but one cannot see to WHAT. It's still the problem with shares, smb, afp and so on, wich are unreachable when RS starts (when one starts the GUI, let's say so). 8.2 is even worse than 8.1 in this issue. And I'm on a Mac Pro, 10.6.4. So this machine is not really wimpy, I guess. But this hanging kills. One cannot backup quickly via a VPN tunnel to a SMB-Share. It's simply not possible. One can mount this share, one can ignore ist ... the same. RS waiiiits and waiiiits and waiiiiiiiits. LittleSnitch shows, that there is hectic action in the background. But what? Who? Why? I really don't get it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabay Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Well, new Beta 2 and it STIIIILLLL waits and waits. Dudes, is it SO impossible to create a software that COMES when called? It takes about six minutes until the console shows activities! On a Mac Pro. Here is another small issue from the machine's console: 30.06.10 08:54:23 Retrospect[2558] Warning - unable to find template matching predicate activityType CONTAINS[cd] "Proaktiv" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpguru21 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Sometimes we have to take a step back and see if it is our own configuration that may be causing some of the issues (not saying in your case it is). So you know it is not across the board: I have been running Beta with no issues, though my backup demands are minimal. X-Server 8 cores 12GB ram backing up 300GB data to 1 TB NAS device across segregated lan. Retro Version 8.2.0 (328) Is this the same version of Beta you are running? thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabay Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) Well, I just started the RS console, let's see, how long it will take, until I can see any activities ... Machine fresh started, one external harddisc is on (for RS), no SMB-shares available. It took ... only three minutes today! Wow. I use 8.2.0 (377). Mac OS 10.6.4, Mac Pro Dual 2,66, 6 GB RAM. Edited July 1, 2010 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 If you have active activities running (or proactive scripts active, but not necessarily backing things up), it takes the Console a while to refresh things. I frequently see the console take a minute or two to populate when I launch it -- but I have 8 proactive scripts active 24/7. This has happened with every version of Retrospect I'm aware of -- the thread for the console update has to sneak in around the other running activities. It appears not to be given a higher priority than running activities. Whether it should or not -- I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabay Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 This is not acceptable. Yes, here are 24/7 proactives working, too. But the problem seems to me unaccessible SMB and/or AFP shares. With this behaviour one cannot "qickly" backup something inducing a manual script. Because after starting the console one has to wait three to six minutes until something shows up and happens. Ehm, in times of 64-Bit OS, multithreading and CPU bolides?! My Atari was faster, decades ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWright Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Is the Beta 8.2 working for the following scenario? MacPro 10.6.4 Atto ExpressPCI UL5D LP Sony AIT SDX-500C and retrieval from 6.1.230 tapes? thanks, j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 This is not acceptable.Yes, here are 24/7 proactives working, too. But the problem seems to me unaccessible SMB and/or AFP shares. With this behaviour one cannot "qickly" backup something inducing a manual script. Because after starting the console one has to wait three to six minutes until something shows up and happens. Ehm, in times of 64-Bit OS, multithreading and CPU bolides?! My Atari was faster, decades ago. Possibly. I don't do any testing backing up "shares" -- I only backup clients (or files on the local engine machine). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabay Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Well, I have to backup a research project to a SMB share via VPN connection to the university. An fitful I save my iTunes stuff to an external machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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