redleader Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 All our backups are set to run as 'Duplicate', copying the contents of one folder to another. Recently some of our 'Duplicate' scripts are doing complete 100% full backups instead of only the changed/modified files/folders? I cannot work out why this is happening, even If I recreate those scripts? Any ideas? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeDave Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Quote: I cannot work out why this is happening - If you complete a Duplicate, and then immediately perform another using the same Source and Destination volumes, does Retrospect still copy all the files? To check how the files are being seen differently, configure an Immediate Duplicate, then click on "Files Chosen." With the Source Volume Browser Window open, go to Configure->Volumes and select your Destination volume, and click on Browse. Select a file in the Source Browser that you don't think should be duplicated again and press Command+I (or choose Get Info from the File menu). Then find the same file in the Volume Browser window and get info for that. Look at the two dialog boxes for anything different. - Please describe the Source and Destination volumes that are behaving this way. Internal? External? Remote? Facts are needed for Forum readers to be able to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redleader Posted December 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 If I complete a Duplicate, and then immediately perform another using the same Source and Destination volumes, Retrospect still copies all the files. Yes, it copies all files or even single files scripted like this. The Sources are Folders on an External 3TB Lacie RAID Drive set as Raid 0 (2.8TB) on FW800 card The Destinations are Folders on two separate External Lacie 1TB FW Drives connected to the G5's FW Ports OS X Server 10.4.11 Bundled Lacie Retrospect Express Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeDave Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 - How was your RAID created? Disk Utility? - If you can use a smaller sized folder as test Source, is there a difference if your Destination is a folder on your internal drive? - If you can create a small size folder on your internal drive as a Source, is there a difference if you Duplicate it to a folder on the external drive? - What did you see when you compared files using the steps outlined above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionblue Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 I think I'm having the same problem and made a new post before finding this one. I wasn't having the problem until updating to 10.5.1 (from 10.4.11) and than updating to to the latest Retrospect. I noticed it because I actually saw retrospect deleting the backup drive contents before doing the duplicate! And I saw this on two occasions. I have no idea why it's doing this when it should be deleting/duplicating what changed like it did previously. One thing I thought of that might be causing it is that I keep the backup drive, in this case "User HD Backup" in the Privacy section of spotlight so that it doesn't get indexed and than the contents show up in searches. This wasn't a problem before, though, and I can't see why it would cause this behavior. I'd sure like to sort this out since I am very hesitant about using Time Machine with all the horror stories over in the Apple forums. Anthony C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redleader Posted January 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 This has now happened consistently on three Max OS X Servers that we have updated (in different company locations) from 10.4.9 to 10.4.11 They all have Retrospect Workgroup 6.1 It even happens if we use Retrospect Express on these Servers as a test. After bi-daily backups over the last 2-3 weeks there has now always been a Complete backup instead of just a Duplicate of change or new files. We have made new folders, backup scripts, used new HD's, same thing happens (so that should narrow it down to OS X or Retrospect) THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeDave Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Quote: THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM. I'm sure. Interestingly, there were some steps provided up-thread (post#104891) that might provide more information about what you're seeing. Sadly, no information regarding the results of those tests has yet been posted, so Forum readers have limited information to consider. > used new HD's Are the drives single physical 1TB hard drives? Or are they the Lacie self-contained 2-disk RAID devices that present themselves as 1 TB? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Try to uncheck this option in the duplicate options: http://screencast.com/t/yqEanzjuDNh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redleader Posted January 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 I was reading about this possibility a few minutes before your email came in (OS X Server - ACLs) but did not really understand it. Your screenshot was exactly what I needed thank you! Yes this has worked for me. Can we assume that the 10.4.11 updates maybe turned these back on ?? Anyway, all is well now :-) Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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