bpieber Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Retrospect Desktop Version: 6.1.126 Device Access Version: 1.0.107 RDU Version: 6.1.12.101 Mac OS X Version: 10.4.10 (German) Mac: Dual 2.5 GHz PowerPC G5 Memory: 4 GB DDR SDRAM Backup Medium: Western Digital My Book 750 GB, partitioned with 2 partitions, connected to the Mac via FW800. The first has 250 GB for the startup disk duplicate and the second has 500 GB for the backup of the data. Additional hardware: Intuos3 Wacom tablet I want to make a duplicate of my startup disk on a partition of an external FireWire hard disk. I tried three times. However, my Mac always freezes during the process. To be more precise, the mouse can be moved. However, the Mac does not react in any way to clicks. Cmd-Alt-Esc does not do anything. The fan does not kick in. It does not look like the CPU is used much. I have turned off the screen saver, because I found out that it slows down Retrospect considerably. Instead I turned on the energy saver for the monitor. I set it to 1 minute. Even when the Mac hangs the energy saver works, i.e. the display turns black, but it can be turned on by pressing the Shift key or moving th mouse. After a long while the mouse pointer cannot be moved anymore, though. Connecting via Apple Remote Desktop does not work. I cannot ping the computer anymore. I cannot reach it remotely using ssh. The three freezes did not occur at the same time. The first freeze happened shortly after Retrospect began copying the files. The second freeze happened before it had started copying, and the third one after 70% had been copied. So it seems to me it has nothing to do with a certain source directory or file. Here is what I did before the last try: - I ran Software Update to make sure the system software is up to date. - I checked the source and the target disk with Disk Utility's First Aid function. None of them had any errors. The target volume has 250 GB. The source disk uses 190 GB of data right now. - I deleted the target volume using Disk Utility. - I made sure that "Ignore Ownership on this volume" was unchecked. - I excluded the target volumes from Spotlight search. Some additional comments which might or might not be relevant: - I am pretty certain that only Retrospect and Activity Monitor were running. - Backup on the 500 GB partition, which I did before, went through without problems. - I checked the Console for errors but found nothing which I could relate to the freezes. - The retrospect protocol shows no error. Here is the latest entry: ? Retrospect Version: 6.1.126 Gestartet am 06.10.2007 22:38 Uhr + Retrospect Driver Update, version 6.1.12.101 + Duplizieren mit TigerG5 duplizieren at 06.10.2007 22:43 Uhr - 06.10.2007 22:43:30 Uhr: Kopieren von TigerG5… After the latest freeze I ran the extensive Apple Hardware Test. It showed no problems at all. I must admit that at that point I have ran out of ideas what to try else. Any help is greatly appreciated! - Bernhard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeDave Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Quote: I want to make a duplicate of my startup disk on a partition of an external FireWire hard disk. I tried three times. However, my Mac always freezes during the process. snip - Backup on the 500 GB partition, which I did before, went through without problems. To be clear, Duplicate is a different operation then Backup with Retrospect. So in the situation where it works without error, please confirm exacdtly what you are doing. While Retrospect Duplication is a powerful, scriptable and useful feature of the program, there are also some other excellent duplication tools for OS X. I would suggest trying to do the same thing with a program such as SuperDuper! or CarbonCopyCloner. This might help to discover if you're experiencing some sort of hardware induced hang, or if it is ineed a Retrospect caused problem. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpieber Posted October 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Thanks for the very fast response! Yes, I was referring to the Retrospect Backup and Duplicate operations. The Retrospect Backup operation to the 500 GB partition worked without a problem yesterday. I backed up three folders, one of them being a user's Documents folder, totalling 75 GB after compression. See the extract of the Retrospect protocol below. You will notice that I had not yet updated to the latest RDU. I only did that after the first freeze. The Duplicate operation of the startup disk to the 250 GB partition on the other hand did not succeed because of the freezes. I will try your suggestion and give you feedback about how it goes. - Bernhard ? Retrospect Version: 6.1.126 Gestartet am 06.10.2007 11:06 Uhr + Retrospect Driver Update, version 6.1.11.101 + Normales Backup mit Daten sichern at 06.10.2007 11:06 Uhr nach Backup-Set Daten Sicherung 1… - 06.10.2007 11:06:57 Uhr: Kopieren von Jobs auf DatenG5… 06.10.2007 13:26:44 Uhr: Vergleichen von Jobs auf DatenG5… 06.10.2007 14:35:28 Uhr: Ausführung wurde erfolgreich beendet. Erledigt: 21667 Dateien, 58,2 GB, mit 16% Komprimierung Durchsatz: 572,7 MB/min (427,9 Kopieren, 865,8 Vergleichen) Dauer: 03:28:31 (00:00:43 Leerlauf/Warten/Vorbereiten) - 06.10.2007 14:35:28 Uhr: Kopieren von Fontordner Jobs auf DatenG5… 06.10.2007 14:36:16 Uhr: Vergleichen von Fontordner Jobs auf DatenG5… 06.10.2007 14:36:46 Uhr: Ausführung wurde erfolgreich beendet. Erledigt: 7027 Dateien, 271,7 MB, mit 6% Komprimierung Durchsatz: 493,8 MB/min (452,6 Kopieren, 543,2 Vergleichen) Dauer: 00:01:18 (00:00:12 Leerlauf/Warten/Vorbereiten) - 06.10.2007 14:36:46 Uhr: Kopieren von Documents auf TigerG5… 06.10.2007 15:14:48 Uhr: Vergleichen von Documents auf TigerG5… 06.10.2007 15:47:44 Uhr: Ausführung wurde erfolgreich beendet. Erledigt: 6340 Dateien, 28,7 GB, mit 15% Komprimierung Durchsatz: 829,6 MB/min (775,5 Kopieren, 891,7 Vergleichen) Dauer: 01:10:58 (00:00:10 Leerlauf/Warten/Vorbereiten) 06.10.2007 15:47:45 Uhr: Ausführung wurde erfolgreich beendet. Gesamtdurchsatz: 637,4 MB/min mit 16% Komprimierung Gesamtdauer: 04:40:47 (00:01:05 Leerlauf/Warten/Vorbereiten) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhwalker Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Quote: Backup Medium: Western Digital My Book 750 GB Many people are reporting issues with the MyBook, specifically that it cannot stand a continuous pounding as happens with Retrospect. The MyBook seems to be designed for light-duty use, and has thermal issues when in continuous-duty use. Quote: I want to make a duplicate of my startup disk on a partition of an external FireWire hard disk. A "duplicate" is not a backup. A duplicate is just a copy of files, without earlier versions, etc. Retrospect is good for backups, but really is not the right tool for "duplicates". If what you are trying to do is to make a bootable "duplicate" (copy / clone) of your startup disk, I suggest that you use SuperDuper! or Carbon Copy Cloner 3.0. Both are free, and are better tools for that job. Either can be found by a quick Google search. Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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