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I would like to do a Duplicate backup of my entire TiBook hard drive to an external Firewire drive. I would like to place the duplicate backup in a folder on the external drive that I have named TiBook Duplicate. I would like to be able to use the rest of the space on the external hard drive for other storage purposes. The external drive is not partitioned and I don't want to partition it. I want to be able to boot from the Duplicate if necessary.

 

I believe all of the above is possible. However, I am stumped by a statement in the Retrospect Manual at page 58 that says:

 

"Before duplicating to a volume other than the current system volume under Mac OS X, use the Finder's Get Info command on the volume. Choose Privileges from the info window's menu then turn off the "Ignore privileges on this volume" option."

 

I haven't the faintest idea what they're talking about. First, which "volume" are you to use the Get Info command on. Is it the folder on the external Firewire drive (the destination volume) or is the volume that's being duplicated? I believe they are referring to the destination volume, but I am not sure.

 

Next, whichever volume it is, I have no mention of "Privileges" in the Get Info windows for either of these volumes.

 

And no where in the Get Info window is there any option entitled "Ignore privileges on this volume" .

 

I am running Tiger 10.4.2 and Retrospect 6.0.212. It sounds to me like this warning is for an older operating system. What, if anything, must I do when running Tiger?

 

Thanks, Robert

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I would like to do a Duplicate backup of my entire TiBook hard drive to an external Firewire drive. I would like to place the duplicate backup in a folder on the external drive that I have named TiBook Duplicate. I would like to be able to use the rest of the space on the external hard drive for other storage purposes. The external drive is not partitioned and I don't want to partition it. I want to be able to boot from the Duplicate if necessary.

 


 

Can't do it.

 

OS X requires that it is installed on the root of the boot volume. Attempting to put all of the files/folders/symbolic links inside a directory will render the volume unbootable.

 

Dave

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Dave, thanks for the input. I was obviously unaware of this. But I assume I can get around this barrier by partitioning the external drive and placing my Duplicate on its own partition. Alternatively, I can just forgo using this Duplicate as bootable and just place a basic system on the root of the external and just place the Duplicate in its own folder as I originally intended.

 

If this is true, then I still need answers to my original questions about the Get Info window, Privileges, and the check box. I hope someone can provide them.

 

Thanks, Robert

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no where in the Get Info window is there any option entitled "Ignore privileges on this volume" .

 


 

Click once on a volume (other then your boot volume) on the Desktop (if your Finder is configured to show volumes on the Desktop)

 

Select "Get Info" from the File menu (or press Command + i)

 

In Tiger, the Get Info window has six disclosure triangles:

 

-Spotlight Comments:

-General:

-More Info:

-Name & Extension:

-Preview:

-Ownership & Permissions:

 

The last panel contains the check box to ignore ownership.

 

 

Dave

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Thanks again, Dave. I was treating my intended folder on the external drive as a volume and there was no checkbox. Similarly, I was also treating my boot drive as a volume and again there was no checkbox. But when I go to the external drive icon on the desktop, there indeed is the checkbox. Mystery solved!

 

I really appreciate the assistance.

 

Robert

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I've got a follow-up question.

 

My TiBook is a single user machine. In these circumstances, is there any reason why I should want to turn off the "Ignore privileges on this volume" option" as is recommended?

 

My experience has been that Privileges sometimes create a real hassle for me when I want to copy and move files. Thus, I'd like to avoid subjecting my entire 500 GB external drive to Privileges which I think is what would happen if I uncheck this box and I've decided not to partition the drive. (This, of course, may be the reason why partitioning is essential.)

 

I'm not sure how this all plays out, but I'm assuming that if I leave this box checked, and I subsequently attempt to place the Duplicate backup on my TiBook, it will lack privileges type restrictions. I really don't know what privileges are all about, but my limited experience is that this would be a good thing in my circumstances as a single user. However, if it means that my system is more open to attack from outside, then I might want to rethink this.

 

Thanks for any insights. Robert

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