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  1. I haven't tried uninstalling as per the link you gave me, David. I'll try that when I get home. Thanks
  2. Hi, Yes, some missing info. MacPro 5,1, High Sierra OS, Retrospect 10.5. This is installed on my home machine so I can continue cataloging from home. I just brought the AIT drive home and it connects via firewire cable. Works well. However, after installing Retrospect on this machine, I've noticed a couple things. One, very long shut down and restart times, around 10 minutes, and two, the retrospect engine won't quit, for anything. I noticed that it wouldn't quit when I had a recatalog process fail because of a bad tape. This left the drive in a strange state where it would no longer communicate with Retrospect. I read somewhere that I might reconnect to the drive without having to restart simply by turning off the drive, stop the retro engine, turn on the drive, and restart the retro engine. I don't know if it works because I can never get the engine to stop. I've never seen this before. Thoughts?
  3. Hi Lennart! Thanks! I did that first. Same result, "replace media"
  4. Hmmm. I guess there's more to figure out here. I'm fairly certain, though not 100%, that v6.1 asks you to make a new tape media set when doing a copy/transfer TO a new tape media set. In my case I'm hoping that I can transfer some of my v6 File sets to an LTO tape, and in that process, Retrospect v6 is going to ask me to name the new media set. Can anyone clarify if this is correct? I don't have the LTO connected to the v6 machine yet, so I can't test it very easily. I could do it with my AIT drive, but I don't have any blank tapes at the moment. I've transferred a lot of old catalogs to v6 file sets because It seemed like a convenient step towards the end goal; no SAS card for the 2,1 Mac, and I really needed to get data off the slow media. Time is also a very big aspect here; old tape systems are loathsomely slow.
  5. Hi! What is the best practice to recover a rebuild when there's a problem with one of the tapes. In this case, the problem came at the very end of the first tape. Retrospect seems to spin as if it's still reading tape, but the tape has stopped and the "replace tape" error lamp is lit on the AIT-2 tape drive. The media set has three sets and the error is on the first tape, again, at the very end of the tape. Can I recover the process and continue with the next tape, or do I have to stop it? If it's possible to recover? Can I add the other tape members to the catalog? I tried once already to stop the process and the catalog seemed to contain the contents of the first tape, minus any snapshots. I did try to repair the catalog but Retrospect asks for the first tape, which of course has a problem. When I put in the first tape again, it did it's thing until the end and then I hit the same problem, "replace tape" lamp comes on. What's best? thanks
  6. Hello, I've been transferring older Retrospect media sets with v10.5 and from time to time I need to stop the Retro Engine, but it seems that it's not possible to make it quit. I have tried the preferences pane of course, but I've also tried to force quit in the activity monitor. It just starts up again by itself. Another thing I've noticed, is that there's no "un-installer" in the 10.5 installer in the dmg I downloaded. Is there a generic uninstaller script I can download somewhere?
  7. Thanks for that David. I don’t understand how I wouldn’t have to rebuild catalogs in v10.5. Here’s the process I’m thinking. System for v6.1: MacPro 2,1 ATTO SCSI PCI card connected to: Exabyte tape drive SCSI DAT tape drive SCSI ATTO SAS PCI card connected to: LTO-5 Tape drive SAS Process A: 1. Using v6.1, copy v4,v5,v6 Media Sets to v6.1 File Sets. 2. Using v6.1, copy those File sets to new v6.1 Media sets on the LTO-5 tape drive. End result is new version of old backups on v6.1 LTO-5 Media set with snapshots in tact. System for 10.5 and above: Macpro 5,1 ATTO SAS PCI card LTO-5 Tape drive SAS Process B: 1. Rebuild new v6.1 Media sets (LTO-5 tape sets) using v10.5 so that now I have the v6.1 catalogs (with snapshots) readable by 10.5 and above. Thoughts?
  8. Hello again David, I'm coming to a similar conclusion as your proposal, which was to make v6.1 backup sets that can be read by 10.5. It's a monumental amount of time and babysitting needed to do it but I think if I just take my time, I'll eventually get there. One question though: If I can manage to connect a second LTO-5 tape drive to my 6.1 machine, could I save time by copying v6.1 File Sets-to-Media Sets? I have copied a large amount of older v5 tape sets to File sets using v6.1 and the File Sets all have their snapshots/catalogs in tact. The real question is, do you know if v6.1 will do a copy of a 6.1 File Set to my LTO-5 tape drive and have the snapshots and catalogs all be in tact? It will save me a lot of time. The LTO drive is so fast that reading a 10-tape sized File Set from disk, I can copy 10 AIT tapes in a matter of a couple hours instead of taking two days. Of course these new LTO media sets would have to be rebuilt in 10.5, but again the LTO transfer rate will save a ton of time. Thoughts?
  9. David, thanks for all the effort in helping out, I appreciate it! All of the input was very useful. I think the way forward for me is to keep using the old Mac that's running 6.1 and rebuild all my old v4-v6 Tape backup sets to be File Sets in a v6.1 format. What I'll be left with are File Sets that have catalogs and snapshots and are restorable very quickly. Since the goal here was to get rid of the old machine setup. I will probably rebuild the v6.1 file sets within v10.5 so that they are at least searchable and fairly easily retrievable; I'll leave the old machine turned off until needed. Lastly, I'll backup the v6.1 File Sets as well as the rebuilt 10.5 File Sets to the new v17 LTO system. Some of it seems redundant but that way I know I have all my bases covered. Thanks to this community for being so helpful. Amazing! 🙂
  10. Hi Nigel, v6.1 File Sets that were rebuilt with tapes from v4,v5 and v6 all have the catalogs (including snapshots) readable by Retrospect v6.1. And, some of the file sets in this case are over 100Gigs so file/catalog size doesn't seem to matter. The problem seems to be that Retro v10.5 doesn't import the catalog (including snapshots) when I rebuild a retrospect v6.1 file set. Interestingly though, snapshots do get saved when I do a recatalog from the tapes themselves that are readable (v4 and v5 catalogs can't be read by v10.5). I suspect that Retrospect v10.5 was put together to rebuild catalogs only if they were rebuilt from tapes, not File Sets.
  11. Hello David and Nigel, Thanks so much for the tips on how to do this. What I've found to work best so far is to copy/transfer the tapes to a File Backup Set for anything on tape from v4-v6. I've been advised not to use File Sets, but Retro v6 can't make a Disk set as far as I can tell. Is this correct? The advantages of the v6 File Set is, is that it's literally all the data off the old tapes and all the snapshots follow along, PLUS the data is instantly retrievable without having to use the old tapes and drive. As you both have noted, getting info off the v4-v6 tapes using Retrospect v6.1 is the first step. So far so good. Now comes the part that I'm really trying to figure out; how to rebuild the files sets from v6.1 with v10.5, AND have the snapshots also follow. The clue here seems to be that a Retro v6.1 File set is actually two files, one is the .cat file and the other is the data. Retrospect v6.1 knows this and in the restore window, the backup set looks like a folder as opposed to a single catalog file. When trying to copy the File Set from v6.1 using v10.5, thus ending up with a 10.5 File Set, Retrospect doesn't even recognise the .cat file, it only recognises the other data file. It will happily copy the File Set and it's now readable by v10.5, BUT the snapshots seem to be discarded. SO, do you know if Retro v10.5 does anything different regarding cataloging vs. copying a v6.1 File Set? It seems that whether I choose Rebuild Media Set or Copy Media Set, Retro 10.5 discards the catalog info. I need to look into this more, but if anyone knows the answers, I'm all ears. 🙂 Thanks again!
  12. Nigel, How do I get the "include" and 'exclude" boxes. Which parameters need to be set for those to show up? Also, recatalogging backup v6 backup sets in v10.5 doesn't bring along the snapshots. Am I doing something wrong?
  13. Thanks Nigel! Great tip about the search Include/Exclude! I'll try that! Re: recatalogging old tapes, I can't seem to get 10.5 to read v4 or v5 tapes, they show up on the console as "wrong version" or "unknown", I can't remember which it is. Is this possible: Will retrspect 10.5 recatalog a file set made in v6.1 (file set seems to be a set of two, same name for both but one has a .cat suffix) and be able to read the snapshots? thanks!
  14. I did a little more research and it seems that the key is to NOT have the Retrospect Engine in Auto Start mode when booting the Mac. I don't know what happens, but when I boot the back without the Retrospect Engine starting automatically, and then start it after the computer has fully booted, then communication works as normal, no problems with drivers, cards, iscsi or any communication. Just smooth. The ATTO SCSI and SAS cards are a bit older so I had to turn off SIP in order to install the drivers, so that may also have something to do with it as well. BUT for now, it's working and I feel confident I know how to keep it running like this. If makes you think of anything else I should look into to make the system even more stable, please let me know. Thanks!!
  15. HI David, I see your point and I actually tried that first, but there were several problems. 1. The macOS/Retrospect engine combination didn't like the old ATTO drivers and were only sometimes talking to the tape drives. 2. I had already installed v17 to keep my daily scripts running on the SAS tape drive, which made it undesirable to downgrade to 10.5, which I needed to open older v6 catalogs. and 3, I still needed to run v6.1 on the old Mac to open even older catalogs, v4 and v5. So, once I'm at the point where I have at least all the old v4 and v5 catalogs recatalogged as v6, I'll have to keep the old Mac doing it's thing. The original motive for doing a media set copy to a File format is to get those catalogs off the old media that is getting old. For some reason, I wasn't up to date on the possibility of a Disk Media set. I'll have to look into that! Thanks! I only very recently migrated. 🙂
  16. Hi David! Thanks for all that detail. Here's a solution that I've managed to come up with that gets me a lot closer to what I wanted, but maybe you can advise me about a better way. Here's how to go from v5 to today's version. 1. I put the ATTO scsi card in the old Mac that still runs Retrospect 6.1 2. This allows me to do a copy from my tape storage sets (in my case it's from an old Exabyte tape drive) to file media sets on a local disk. This seems to work for both v5 storage sets and v6 storage sets. It looks very promising that my older v4 DAT tapes will work as well since the v4 catalogs open on Retrospect v6.1. 3. After doing the copy to a file set, the result is two files with exactly the same name, but one of the files has a .cat suffix where the other has no suffix. AND, now these new File media sets are all v6.1 media sets. 4. I then copy these newly created media set files to my other Mac running Retrospect 10.5 where I then do another copy, which goes a hell of a lot faster now that the data is on disk instead of tape, and the end result is a modern retrospect media set that can be read by v17. 5. Problem is: once the catalogs are copied again with v10.5, the backup snapshots seem to be gone. I can search for files and folders but that seems to be the only way to get data off. My work around is to do a search with 6 rules, where each rule is a single vowel letter, and then the results are 99.9% of the entire disk. The only folders that wouldn't show up would be those with only numbers or punctuation, something I never do at the root level. So, is there any way to get the snapshots to follow all the way through this process? Any suggestions to make this a more streamlined processes much appreciated. Thanks!
  17. It seems that when I start the Retrospect application (most recent version), and subsequent Retrospect engine, I notice that after about 30seconds, I get a kernel task appear in the activity monitor that that shows a usage of 100%+. Side effects are that I lose communication to the LTO tape drive and all ethernet connections seem frozen, both internet (ethernet to switch for LAN and internet) and iSCSI SAN storage on the second ethernet port. I'm trying to figure out what's causing this because it stops any possibility of backing up to the LTO and also accessing the data on the SAN. I'm running the program on a 5,1 Mac Pro running High Sierra. Other than Retrospect, I only have the ATTO SAS driver and the StudioNetworkSolutions initiator and SAN client software installed on this machine; it's basically a new install with only what's needed to run backups. Has anyone ever heard of these symptoms?
  18. Hi Lennart! Thanks for the info. Did v4 - v6 have a fast rebuild option?
  19. Thanks boomcha, I’m also very interested in what steps I would need to take to make it a reality. How do you do it?
  20. I've been recatalogging whatever I can with the 10.5 version of Retrospect but this process got me thinking. Since the recatalogging requires that all the tapes be read, would it be possible to skip the process of recatalogging and simply restore everything on the tapes to a Retrospect File on a hard disk? Is there a way to make getting the data off the old systems without having to keep a dinosaur machine up and running that is soon 20 years old? All tips and suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance. 🙂
  21. Hello again David, Thanks for the legwork on my behalf! I do live in Oslo, Norway. I'll try to find a EU sales rep, and if not I'll probably end up looking up Ian. Strangely, I just checked past backups and a script ran two nights in a row now, completely unexpected. What's worse than it not working is that it sometimes works and I never know when.
  22. Hi David, I think that I decided to stay where I was because it was working pretty flawlessly this whole time. And way back when, when this current setup came to be, it took a considerable effort to finally get it running stably. I think this was back when Retrospect was owned by a different company. Anyways, as I mentioned previously, my current Retrospect machine has been running for about 8 years or more. The Mac Pro is a 1,1 model and the OS is OSX Snow Leopard. Can this machine be upgraded to run the newer software? Probably not. Coincidently, I do have another Mac Pro that I just decommissioned that is a 5,1 (firmware updated 4,1 machine). I would just need to make sure my ATTO express SAS PCI card will work together with it. I wouldn't say no to a fix, or a workaround or a free something to get it running again. I appreciate your effort here, thanks! FWIW, I've been using Retrospect for over 20 years, and not all eras were equally happy; hence my anxiety for upgrading. I guess I'm due. 🙂 Having said that, I can't decommission the old machine completely because I sometimes I need to restore a project from Retrospect 6 from a DAT or Exabyte tape drive. Still works but the tapes are starting to get old which worries me. Thanks again!
  23. Hi David, I didn't update. I'm still running Retrospect 8. It seems to have healed itself when it comes to the "deferred" issue; it still says deferred on all scripts, but they're actually running now. Go figure.
  24. After unfailing service for about 8 years, suddenly, all my retro 8 scheduled scripts stopped running. They all look exactly the same and the schedules are all in tact. ANY idea as to what happened and if they are permanently broken? I could try to remake them, but maybe there's a simpler solution?
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