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This is question for Dantz. I figured there exists an excellent application called BootCD which creates a bootable OSX CD from your existing installation and gives you the option to add more applications (within the size of the CD of course) I thought fine, just add RetrospectClient and I can easily restore my client computer by booting on the CD. Nearly works. The Cd boots fine (albeit slow) I can launch RetrospectClient BUT it comes up as desactivated and asks for the password. Entering the password results in an error message ( which I fogot to write down, but can repeat the experience if needed).

 

Nevertheless the Client goes ON and I can see it from the backup computer. The problem is that when I try to restore something, it says there is a name/password conflict. Evidently it could not staore the password.

 

I am afraid only YOU know where/how the password is saved. Why copying the client does not carry over the password? The client name is ok. On a CD I can not reinstall a fresh Client because it is write only.

 

Can one workaround this problem, or I should not try to fight you have built in some kind a security?

 

 

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Hi Amy etc.

 

 

 

Am searching for the above-mentioned file... not finding it:

 

 

 

 

 

/Library/Preferences]

 

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$ ls

 

AppleTalk 241FDD com.apple.HIToolbox.plist com.apple.windowserver.plist

 

DirectoryService com.apple.PowerManagement.plist loginwindow.plist

 

Retrospect com.apple.dockfixup.plist

 

com.apple.ColorSyncDeviceList.plist com.apple.loginwindow.plist

 

 

 

$ cd Retrospect

 

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$ ls

 

LaunchRetroHlper Operations Log Retro.Config (5.0) Retro.Icons (5.0) retrorunfile

 

 

 

 

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If you have the Retrospect client installed on your system, the retroclient.state file is included the Library/Preferences folder.

 

 

 

This is the client password file, not the application password. Your application password is stored in your confirguration files (Retro.config), located in Library/Preferences/Retrospect.

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OK. thanks!

 

 

 

but how do I discover the password by looking at the file?

 

what editor for example? Here is what I get if I open it in TextEdit:

 

 

 

Here is /Library/Preferences/Retrospect/Retro.Config(5.0) in TextEdit:

 

(it's a bunch of unprinables, it doesn't show up due to forum's filtering)

 

 

 

 

 

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To clarify, I install RS onto a bootable CD and then boot to it and run RS (Desktop, not client).

 

It asks for an administrator password, but nothing satisfies it.

 

 

 

So are you saying that there is a password in the Retro.Config file that will be

 

what I should type into the above authentication dialog? Because

 

that is what I am understanding you to say. If this is not the case

 

we need to review our posts and reconsider the answer.

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

Russ

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In reply to:

we need to review our posts and reconsider the answer.


 

 

 

The best answers are:

 

 

 

1- You can't do that.

 

 

 

2- Dantz doesn't support that.

 

 

 

3- Apple has yet to realease a SDK for creating bootable CD's that will support developed applications (great that there are shareware hacks for this, but as you have found out, they don't always do what a user might want them to do).

 

 

 

The password for the Retrospect OS X Client software lives in /Library/Preferences/retroclient.state

 

 

 

You cannot read the password in this file. It is encrypted.

 

 

 

The password for the Retrospect application lives in /Library/Preferences/Retrospect/Retro.Config (5.0)

 

 

 

You cannot read the password in this file. It is encrypted/compiled.

 

 

 

You could try and take a working config file and add it to your bootable CD image folder before you burn it. But it's my guess that you're still not going to actually be able to run the program successfully.

 

 

 

Dave

 

(who welcomes being proven wrong on this...)

 

 

 

 

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that sounds believable enough for me!

 

 

 

but then: is there no way to boot from a CD or DVD,

 

and have Retrospect for OS X available on the CD?

 

 

 

I mean, the boot disk I have that came with RS

 

boots me to OS 9.1, and there is the OS 9 version

 

of RS there, but my understanding is that OS 9 RS

 

cannot be used to restore OS 10 backups (although

 

the reverse is possible).

 

 

 

I don't have much concern about OS 9 ( I am almost free

 

entirely of it ).

 

 

 

I guess it is a disaster recovery question after all. I was hoping

 

to avoid having to format a hard disk and install RS before I could

 

get around to restoring my backup, in a disaster scenario.

 

 

 

As a parallel, consider Disk Utility. Ultimately it is only

 

useful to me if I booted from the Mac OS X Install disk and

 

am running it off that bood disk. Otherwise permissions always get in the way.

 

I was thinking that a similar boot disk for OS X RS would be

 

nice. But your post sounds like that will not happen anytime soon.

 

 

 

If I've misunderstood pls let me know, and thank you

 

for providing your best knowledge on this topic.

 

 

 

Russ Welti

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Now I'm curious:

 

 

 

why would one care where RS stores passwords? especiallly, as

 

you say, since they are encrypted...

 

 

 

i mean, the only password it ever asks me for is my Administrator

 

password, and i presume that is stored not in RS but in /System

 

or /Library or wherever the Mac OS keeps those things...

 

are there other passwords in RS?

 

 

 

cheers

 

Russ

 

 

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