ppi Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Windows 2003 with Retrospect 7.5 is what we're using now to back up PC and Mac clients, plus other Windows servers through Network Container. Previously we used the xserve machine with an older version, and have been using that to back up xserve on a different tape drive. We're trying to move the xserve backup to the Windows server, through Network Container. It seemed to work once except for the Users directory, where it then kept saying "scanning". I tried changing the login to root for that, and now it seems anything I try to backup says "scanning" for hours until I stop it, even with the xserve Retrospect unlaunched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 What do you see happening while this Scan is happening? Are the file/folder counts increasing? It may be a good idea to download the Universal Client beta and try again. You may also have the ACL issue. http://kb.dantz.com/article.asp?article=9576&p=2 The current (and beta) windows version has an option to not copy ACLs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppi Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 While it is scanning, it seems to count the files but nothing is being copied. I could be wrong about this, but I think it's trying to scan the whole HD. When I've tried this on the overnight backup, there's a message at the bottom of the activity monitor that says it completed (I think close to the time it starts the scanning), but it doesn't copy any of xserve and still appears in the Executing tab. What is the Universal Client? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppi Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I don't have the backup ACL option for Macs selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayoff Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Retrospect must scan the entire drive before it can backup. If you cancel the scan, backup can't run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppi Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Does it need to do that each time it backs up, even if you have only specified certain directories? (This HD is 233Gb, and it was still scanning after 5 hours) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhwalker Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Does it need to do that each time it backs up, even if you have only specified certain directories? Yes. The solution is to use Retrospect "subvolumes", and it will only scan the "subvolume" tree. Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppi Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I tried starting the backup at 6:30 last night. It got to xserve at 10:45. When I got in at 9, it still said "scanning" on the first subdirectory Groups 44 of 45, remaining 74301, completed 0. That still seems excessive. I thought that's what I was doing...but I'll try defining all the directories under Groups and Users as subvolumes. Is this the level that you mean (it didn't seem possible to define Groups as a subvolume under xserve)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhwalker Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I thought that's what I was doing...but I'll try defining all the directories under Groups and Users as subvolumes. Is this the level that you mean (it didn't seem possible to define Groups as a subvolume under xserve)? Your question is a little unclear, and your original post of your problem statement and configuration is unclear. The answer depends on how you are backing up the Xserve, because the subvolume needs to be defined as seen by Retrospect. If you have Retrospect Client running on the Xserve and the backup filesystem structure is seen by Retrospect client on that machine, define the subvolume appropriately as seen on the Xserve. If you are backing up a share as seen by Retrospect (non-client), then you would define the subvolume on the Retrospect machine as it sees the share. Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppi Posted April 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 xserve is backed up via the Network Container on the Windows server Retrospect, not via a client. I defined subvolumes under Groups and Users, and set the login as root for the Users directory and all the subvolumes under that. It appeared to do Groups ok, but got to Users at 6:30 this morning and is still saying "copying" in the log, and "scanning" in the activity window. There are only 31 subvolumes under Users, and not all have files in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 You should install a client on the XServe and backup that way. Much faster and better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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