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  1. Hi, Just a quick follow up. I'll have to jump back on this after the break at the beginning of the year. But we do have a Mac Mini server for which we purchased additional RAM (16GB - high quality). It is running Mac OS X Server 10.9.5. And we just purchased an upgrade to Retrospect 13.5 Server Edition with 10 client licenses. Everything is completely legit. We only have the typical server software running along with Retrospect, nothing else. CPU usage is really not being tasked, surprisingly. I watched it for a bit. And concerning RAM, Retrospect & RetrospectEngine are at 500MB each, RetrospectInstantScan is at 300MB. Apart from that, it's only system resources. And we're not hitting the swap drive, so we're really OK here too. Not even at 30% of RAM resources. Concerning long startup times, it always hangs on a message like 'Syncing catalogs' or something. Takes a very long time. Lastly, we are now on to drive 4 of 5, which is a 2TB drive. BUT, the overall size of our media set I took from the Media Sets section in Retrospect, which stated that it was about 5.6TB over 5 members. IN REALITY, it's going to be well over 6TB, probably about 7TB, when completed. Wondering why Retrospect's calculation didn't match reality?!? We're going to have to now get another destination drive to finish this thing out. And our weekly offsite backups SHOULD be only what's new from week-to-week, right?!? Only the first initial backup will be huge. I'll check-in here after the New Year. Thanks for the help!
  2. Thanks for the responses. It's a lot to read through right now, so I may have to go back through it when I get a bit more time. But I did check Activity Monitor, and surprisingly, Retrospect wasn't maxing out the CPU (Core i7 2Ghz). It ranged from 25-65% mostly. We see Retrospect freeze up and max the CPU when just doing normal tasks or even opening the program (takes 5-6 minutes when starting just to be usable). So we're scared to pause or try to stop the backup, as I'd be surprised if it wouldn't completely freeze Retrospect. And RAM isn't an issue, we have 16GB in our server (Retrospect using under 1GB). At this point, we're on to the 3rd HD of 5, which is 1TB, and it's running just as slow. We're at about 400GB after 24hrs. So it looks like it wasn't due to a faulty drive (drive #2 was the one we thought we'd have to have repaired). As I'm heading out for the Holidays tomorrow, and have a ton to get done before then, we'll have to just let this process finish out (hopefully by the end of the week), and look into doing it differently in 2017 when we are going to start a completely new set to alleviate some of the issues with our 5-year-old 6TB set. When we get our new Media Set going at the beginning of the year, we are going to do a weekly Copy Media Set for an offsite HD (not the same one we're running now). So I'll have to look more into exactly what "Match Source Media Set to destination Media Set" and "Don’t add duplicate files to the Media Set" do to determine if they can be safely left off without losing the flexibility that's important to us. We'll just need the new Copy Media Set script to be able to complete in less than a work day, as it will be brought in just for that, then taken back home. Thanks for the help!
  3. Hi, we're running a 'Copy Media Set' script to copy our entire current media set onto an external 6TB drive to store offsite as a backup-backup. But it seems to be taking unusually long and wanted to see what to expect. Our Media Set is comprised of 5 hard drives taking up almost 6TB total space, and the catalog file is 123GB. We have Retrospect 13 on a Mac Mini Server. All hard drives are good quality 7200rpm drives connected with a Firewire 800 dock/interface. While we're running the Copy Media Set script, both the source & destination HD's are daisy-chained with identical FW800 docks. In the Copy Media Set, we did NOT set encryption or software compression, as we though this would tax the processor too much. :: The first drive in the set was 1TB. This took about 17hrs to complete. :: But are second drive in the set, which is 2TB, is at 76hrs & counting. It still has 500GB to go! - Is this unusually long for just copying files over, or can it take this long depending upon hardware?!? It is still churning away and hasn't frozen up, which Retrospect can often do for us. So I don't want to touch it after this long, unless there's something I can adjust between this hard drive and the next. In Retrospect, I see the status repeatedly rotating between 'Copying' & 'Updating Catalog File'. It doesn't seem to copy many files at a time from what I can tell. When the 'Performance' shows anything, most of the time it is: 102.4KB/m. If this is 102 Kilobytes per minute, we're in trouble! - Any insight here for how to: A) proceed; and modify anything so it's not so painful in the future', would be welcome.
  4. Hi, We have a Media Set that is comprised of 5 Hard Drives that span about 5 years of backups. Unfortunately, one of the Media Member HD's appears to have gone bad (spins but won't mount). It is a 2TB drive, that is member #2 of 5, covering data from 2013-14. 1) If we can send the drive out and recover some/most/all of the data, it will come back on a new drive. How do we 'merge' this drive back into our existing Media Set so it takes the place of the former HD?? Is there a difference if all of the data cannot be recovered? 2) If we cannot recover the data (or determine that it's too expensive), what would happen if we tried to run a 'Copy Media Set' function to back up this Media Set when it came to asking for member #2?? We ultimately want to create a duplicate back-up of this Media Set in case this happens again, but are unsure of how to handle it when only partial data would be available. Thanks! We're moving to having more redundancy so this won't happen again. Frustrating thing is that the drive was sitting unused in a safe, and it hadn't been used that much for a relatively robust HD (WD Black). It wasn't dropped or anything as far as I'm aware...
  5. Thanks for the ongoing help. It's becoming a bit clearer what we need to do. To answer David about why we never followed through with cloud (and are considering an alternative now), it honestly was getting too complicated to figure out how to properly groom, seed, and estimate both current and future storage needs, JUST so we could figure out how much it was going to cost. We didn't want to dive in only to figure out that in the end the monthly costs were just not reasonable or it was too time-consuming. I think we could get one big 6TB drive now ($200-300 total) and just copy our entire media set over, then keep it offsite in a safe environment. We would then only need to update that once a week with what's changed. That, plus maybe another 3-6TB drive when it fills up, would probably last us a few years at our current data rates. And I would hope that with a robust enterprise drive, only being used once a week, that it would be reliable enough (it IS just the backup-backup anyway). ----- A) But to get back to original questions if possible, can I get pros/cons of using 2 separate media sets that rotate every other week vs. our current single media set plus a 'Copy Backup' set once a week?? And still a hair fuzzy on whether to use 'Copy Media Set' vs. 'Copy Backup' script. I believe we would want the main onsite backup and the offsite 'backup-backup' to be identical so one could be swapped for the other in the case of emergency. C) Our current set is almost 6TB and goes back 5+ years. The catalog file for it is 120GB. At what point to we REALLY need to consider doing a 'New Media' backup to 'start over'? We do not use compression, and we really need to have as many iterations of a file, and as far back as possible, available to restore at any time. Thanks!
  6. OK, thanks. The drive was about $130, so not a complete waste. Was just thinking that it wouldn't be hard to migrate it over. I guess I can try to do a direct clone of the current media set drive to the new drive, after partitioning & labeling the new drive the same as the old, and see if Retrospect saw it correctly. Not sure if it would recognize the suddenly larger partition, though.
  7. Hi, thanks for the reply and example. I can see how this might be a very complete way of backing up, not only for recovering old/overwritten files, but for doing a complete restore as well. In the years of using Retrospect, we have only ever used it to recover files that were overwritten, corrupted, deleted, or lost in some way. But we are aware that catastrophes can happen, and know our setup might be a bit cumbersome or time-consuming to restore from (our file storage drive is a 4-member RAID 5, so 'fairly' safe, though). We'll consider your example, but have to just consider the costs (additional media needed and additional time to mange the system - adding/removing drives at the right time, etc.). - When you say you use a 'Copy Backups' script to copy C to A or B, is there a reason to choose that over a 'Copy Media Set' script? We would want to be sure to have all past backups of files in case they are overwritten or corrupted at a point in time. - When you do a 'New Media' backup for A or B, does that just continue the current incremental backups onto new media? Or does it do a 'fresh start', backing up all of the current files even if versions of them exist on the previous Media Set? We haven't done a new set due to how large the first backup would be (all current files), and concerns about how to search for a specific version of a file which may exist across either of the Media Sets. More insight here might be helpful. - Any other replies on our initial questions??
  8. Thanks for the reply. I just want to be sure that this process would only copy over the data from the current media MEMBER, not the entire media SET. Is this correct?? The current media member (external HD) has about 1TB of backup data on it. I just wanted to transfer that to the new larger HD and have that one take over as the current member in the media set. No way to have Retrospect think that the new larger HD is the current media member (which is disk 5 of 5)? Thanks!
  9. Hi, we have a media set with the latest/current member being a 2TB HD. It is less then half full so far. Sorry if this is an obvious answer, but have a question about effectively transferring this member to a larger drive. - How do we 'migrate' this current media set member to a larger HD we'll be purchasing (we're getting a 3-6TB RAID 1 external), without 'capping' the current drive and adding a new member? We'd just like to repurpose the existing 2TB drive for something else while not throwing the current backups off at all. I would assume I could just copy the contents of the current drive to the new, but just don't know if that throws Retrospect off for any reason. Thanks!
  10. Hi, We are currently backing up 4-5 machines to a single HD media set. Backups run M-Thurs each week at night (we turn the drive off on weekends to save some wear & tear). The media set is almost 6TB now (across 5 hard drives), and spans 5+ years of incremental backups. But we now would like to have an offsite copy just to be safe (one of the previous drives from our current set went bad while in storage, losing a year's worth of older backups . We're thinking we could take a drive/media set home once a week realistically. So just trying to understand the best or most efficient way to set this up. 1) Should we create an entirely new media set and set the current scripts to backup to each set (e.g., A & for one week, then rotate to the next? This would mean we'd lose at worst a week's worth of backups if something happened. 1a) If so, would this new media set just start backing up from the current state and then be incremental going forward, thus not being in-synch with our 5-6 year-old media set? Or is there a way to 'synch' the sets first, so they are at least covering the same backup data & dates? 2) Or would it be more efficient to copy the existing media set to a new media set once a week? I can imagine we'd bring the other media set drive(s) in on a Friday and hope it could complete all copying from the week while we were here, then it would go back offsite. 2a) What exactly is this type of operation called, and where would I find specifics about setting it up? 2b) I'm guessing we'd need enough space to copy the entire media set (6TB) initially, then it would just do incremental, correct? Could this destination set span multiple drives like our current media set?? Thanks a lot. Let me know if there are better ways to accomplish what we're after that I'm not aware of.
  11. Ahh, that's a good (and rather obvious) idea. So is it the raw .rdb files that would be copied 'as-is' to the cloud storage? Or would there be some intermediary or modified file(s) that would get sent? I did check through our current HD (member 4 of 4), and got some decent stats. It looks like for the year 2015-2016, there were over 18,000 .rdb files, totaling about 685GB in space. So from that I come up with a monthly average of roughly 1545 files at 57GB. For a small (4-person) graphic design office, backing up incrementally 4 days a week, does this sound like reasonable figures? Just want to make sure we're not WAY off, indicating some sort of issues. We'd have to determine how much space we'd want to start with, and then we'd have an idea of how much it might grow on a monthly basis. It appears the main cloud storage providers offer different tiers for their storage pricing, depending on frequency of usage. Anyone know what type of 'tier' we would need for weekly copies of files, which would rarely (if ever) need to be accessed?? Thanks again for the help here! Hopefully it will be helpful to others as well.
  12. Hi David, Thank you for your diligent assistance and advocation here on our part! Much appreciated. I've read through everything briefly, but will have to go back when I get a chance to try to thoroughly understand all that's stated. It appears, however, that we would still do a 'test' run to a new blank media set, with some grooming options enabled, to determine the INITIAL size of storage we'd need to afford. I'll try to see (unless you or someone knows off the top of your head) if there are reports or other ways to determine an 'average' backup size, either per backup or per time period (e.g., how much space on average per month). This would help not only determine how far back we could/should reasonably go initially, but also how much additional space we might need on average for future backups. If it's helpful, we run our master backup on our server and a couple clients 4 nights per week, then there are a couple mobile users who are backed up when on the network (up to daily). We still like the idea of redundant, automated cloud backup. But it's still unclear how much this would cost, both initially and ongoing. Thanks!
  13. OK, thanks for the rundown. I guess we'd have to read up a bit on Grooming, as we haven't done that with current backups. Then I suppose we'd need a fairly large drive for the initial copy/test. Guess I was hoping there might be a more definitive way to 'guesstimate' both current and average ongoing storage requirements so we can see if the costs are even feasible for us. Don't want to go through all the trouble of setting something up to only find out it is cost prohibitive. Would I be correct assuming that if we wanted a 'Complete' backup, going all the way back to our first backup, we'd look at the current size of our media set, which is over 5TB?? Is it a 1:1 relationship here?? Thanks!
  14. Hi, Wondering if anyone has any insight to my original questions, especially C & D regarding cloud backup?? I've tried to follow the additional question added, but it appears to be more geared towards MOVING a backup to the cloud. We only want to copy our backups to the cloud as a safety net for our local HD backups. ** Mayoff states - "If you have a disk media set, you can use the Copy Media Set script to copy the entire contents into a Cloud media set (local or cloud storage)." This seems like what we want to do, and the video makes it look pretty straight forward, but it also mentions that it will only copy NEW or CHANGED media to the cloud account. Still wondering about needing to get the entire disk media set up or not. Thanks!
  15. Hi, we received the notice today about Cloud Backup being a feature of Retrospect v.13. We're currently using v.11.5.2 on a Mac Mini server. It backs up our server and a few client machines. Curious to know a couple things: A) How smooth is an upgrade from v.11 to v.13? We would hate to lose any of the configuration or setup info, as we've had issues before keeping Retrospect running smoothly. Retrospect is painfully slow on our server when opening and trying to check things (we have 2Ghz Core i7, 16GB Ram, OS X Server 10.9.5). Just opening the application takes about 3-5 minutes before I can access all of the areas, and if it's backing up, it can often crash. Would v.13 make any improvements here for our machine? C) Concerning Cloud Backup, we'd love to augment our existing backup with maybe a weekly data transfer to a cloud storage as a backup of our onsite backup (we'd want our local HD backup to still be primary and work as-is). Is there anything we can look at in our current Retrospect setup to get a rough idea of the amount of storage and get/put requests we would need, so we can see how expensive the cloud storage would be?? We currently have been backing up all devices incrementally to a media set comprised of multiple hard drives. The total space used for ALL backups (which goes back 4 years now) is about 5TB, spread across 4 hard drives. But we don't necessarily need to go all the way back to the beginning. We might be fine transferring either just current data forward, or maybe everything back to a year or so ago, if that's possible and would be more efficient. D) Do we really need a specific data storage service (e.g., Amazon or Google) for it to work simply enough? Or can we use a hosted dedicated server we use for other purposes (typical LAMP/WHM/cPanel server)? Thanks for any insight here. Offline redundancy is intriguing if simple and affordable enough.
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