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  1. Retro 9.0.2.107 Mac OS X 10.6.8 I had a tape rebuild in progress, and mistakenly hit "verify" on a different V9 tape media set. The v9 media set changed status to "busy". The rebuild finished, and the v9 set stayed "busy". There is no activity to cancel, and it looks like the only way I can "un-busy" the tape set is to restart the engine. Other operations on the busy tape set fail. A copy says it is busy, and a verify simply says "error"
  2. Don Lee

    poisoned 6.1 tape cannot be rebuilt

    I've done this (at least) four times on this tape set. It's a 3-tape set. Two of the tries stopped with this error at (or near) the end of the first tape. (It's a DAT-72 tape, and it stops 20 GB in, so it's not that close to the end....) The third try, I did a "repair" after this error had occurred. That attempt got pst this point in the tape, and I was sitting here while is passed that point, so I could hear the tape drive whine and complain, as it passed the spot on the tape. (it made the repositioning noises, like it was running re-tries) That resulted in the strange error/freeze that I reported here: http://forums.retrospect.com/index.php?/topic/147822-tape-stops-responding-after-error/ On another attempt (repair), it continued on to the other two tapes, and resulted in a number of total files that seems more-or-less complete. Regardless of the condition of the tape, the error reporting here is sub-optimal, and I have some evidence that Retro gets "confused" when the error occurs. (See this: http://forums.retrospect.com/index.php?/topic/147796-what-is-backup-set-format-inconsistency-success/ ) I have no strong evidence of which error caused what, but I did get different behavior after restarting the engine, and power cycling the drive, and the timing suggests that it was the tape error that triggered the inability to find any files on the tapes. (several sets of "Inconsistency" errors, with no output files)
  3. I'm having all sorts of trouble rebuilding a particular tape set. The log looks like this: + Executing Rebuild at 4/28/12 (Activity Thread 1) To Backup Set iCompute11 [001]... SixOneTree:TAddAbstractFile failed objects.nib !Not enough application memory 4/28/12 9:20:47 PM: Execution incomplete Completed: 326998 files, 19.9 GB Performance: 234.7 MB/minute Duration: 01:25:57 (00:00:01 idle/loading/preparing) Retro 9.0.2.107, Mac OS X 10.6.8, mini, 8 GB mem. This is the third time I've tried to do this. The first time I got this error. The second was the error under "Tape stops responding after error", and now this, which looks exactly like the first. There is something poisoned about this tape, I think.
  4. Don Lee

    poisoned 6.1 tape cannot be rebuilt

    After resetting, restarting the engine and tape drive, I tried this again, and got the same result - and no errors from Retro save this: + Executing Rebuild at 4/30/12 (Activity Thread 1) To Backup Set iCompute11 [001]... SixOneTree:TAddAbstractFile failed objects.nib !Not enough application memory 4/30/12 7:06:52 PM: Execution incomplete Completed: 326998 files, 19.9 GB Performance: 234.3 MB/minute Duration: 01:26:04 I've gone through quite a few tapes now, and this one is the only one that does this. There is 8 GB of memory in this machine, and the size of this tape in files/data is not anywhere near what would be expected to run Reto out of memory. I smell a bug. I can send you the tape, if you like. ;->
  5. Retro 9.0.1 on 10.5.8 If I have several 6.1 backup sets, and want to access them, I need to "rebuild" them. It would be convenient to do them "batch", but that appears to be unavailable. Next best, I thought I could request them manually, and they should run simultaneously, or maybe wait, one for the other. It does not seem to work that way. If I ask for the second rebuild, it finishes immediately, producing a new set with the same name. It appears to create an empty catalog with no members. If I come back and try to rebuild the second, or third media set later, Retro complains that the "new" catalog file already exists. This could be called a feature request, but if it doesn't do the rebuild, I would rather get an error.
  6. The bug reported above appears to only apply when trying to queue a second *tape* rebuild. Multiple file backup set rebuilds work fine, and run simultaneously.
  7. I am copying rebuilt Retro 6 tapes to a disk media set, and have requested data compression in the "options" in the script doing the copy. The resultant copy works, but the resultant disk media set is larger than expected and the status window in "activities" says data compression is "OFF". It appears that Retro 9 (9.0.1.401) is ignoring my request for data compression
  8. I just finished a copy of a file media set to a disk set on another volume, and have selected "Data compression (in software)" in the options. The Summary tab under "Acivities" clearly showed "Compression OFF" throughout the operation, but judging from the size of the resulting backup sets, it was clearly ON.The difference in the sizes is about 28%, which is too large for random format funkiness. The new (disk) set: 93,743,000,000 (decimal) The old (file) set: 120,292,000,000 (decimal) This is at odds with the "107.9 GB" reported in the log file, which is much closer to the "111 GB" reported for the file under the old (obsolete, retrograde, reactionary) "power of two" counting system pre-10.6. It looks to me like this is a cosmetic problem with the display, not a problem with the compression not happening when requested. Log from the copy op below. Note that there is no "compression advantage XX%" message: + Executing copy-compress at 4/30/12 (Activity Thread 2) To Backup Set test-compress... - 4/30/12 2:18:17 PM: Transferring from iCompute12d-v9 4/30/12 5:16:12 PM: Execution completed successfully Completed: 652539 files, 107.9 GB Performance: 631.1 MB/minute Duration: 02:57:54 (00:02:50 idle/loading/preparing) - 4/30/12 5:16:12 PM: Verifying test-compress 4/30/12 5:42:06 PM: Execution completed successfully Completed: 652539 files, 107.9 GB Performance: 4,587.3 MB/minute Duration: 00:25:54 (00:01:48 idle/loading/preparing)
  9. Actually, this would be an easy fix for Retrospect. Use Config90.dat for 9.x, and Config80.dat for 8.x. When installing 9.x, copy over Config80 -> Config90. They could put that in a bugfix release in 9.x. It's not beautiful, but it would allow the 8.x and 9.x consoles to co-exist without fighting.
  10. More news on this. Of 6 tape backup sets, I have now gotten one "poisoned" set, two successes, and 2 sets that get lots of "Backup set format inconsistency" errors, and zero-length catalogs, after appearing to read the entire set. I got suspicious when the 6th set rebuild started and immediately got a couple of "inconsistency" errors - within seconds of the start of the read of the tape. I stopped and restarted the Retro engine. I power cycled the tape drive. (HP Storage works DDS Dat-72 drive - USB) Powered up the drive. Started the Engine I re-started the re-build of the 6th tape set. THIS time, the summary window in "Activity" is showing progress - file counts, file names, etc. No more "inconsistency" errors - at least so far. It looks to me like there was something in the tape drive or engine that was "stuck. I note that the problems started when I got the errors on the "poisoned" tape ( poisoned 6.1 tape cannot be rebuilt ). If this happens again, I will try cycling *just* the engine, or *just* the drive to see where the "stuck" component was.
  11. Don Lee

    Out of memory?

    The failure takes hours to repeat, and the "out of memory" error comes up quickly, and is gone. I don't think I saw any memory symptoms beforehand. I'm not sure I could get that screen shot, even if I were willing to try.
  12. I have now rebuilt about 9 of these tape sets, and I'm getting 3 results. 1. The rebuild works. 2. The rebuild fails with a strange tape error, and puts crap in the log, but seems to recover, and the resultant catalog has about 80% of the files it is supposed to have. (Is this good or bad? Hard to say.) 3. The rebuild process ends up with quite a few (50-100+?) errors roughly of the form below. The catalog is empty (zero files) when the rebuild completes. Of the 8 or so sets I have re-built so far, I have seen 3 sets rebuild with no resultant files (#3, above). I have seen one of #2, (and suspect that its problem is tied to its tape, which generates tape drive errors. It may be going bad.) The rest were all #1, and went smoothly. The long-running operation (hours!) resulting in no output is a frustration, and I smell a bug. It appears that I can tell when this is going to happen, because the status window in "activity" will normally show its progress, as files are counted, and an estimate of the data volume catalogued is displayed (as well as the occasional file name). The telltale sign of failure is the "Backup Set format" message below, plus no counters in the status window. Note that the "Backup Set format inconsistency" is pretty common. I don't think I have more than one or two rebuilds that did not produce at least a few of these. -dgl- + Executing Rebuild at 4/29/12 (Activity Thread 1) To Backup Set iCompute11 [004]... !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 1884360320) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316812800) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316813904) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316809200) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316801808) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316805200) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316807792) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316802944) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316802976) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316808880) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316793568) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316796112) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316797808) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316799136) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316792976) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316794816) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316800336) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316800368) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316790576) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316789136) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316788320) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316785760) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316784672) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316775504) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316784240) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316778976) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316779008) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316775968) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316777776) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316778112) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316774160) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316773072) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316771968) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316770832) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316768720) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316768752) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316763680) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316765632) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316761776) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316762400) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316759728) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316760880) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316764416) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316756528) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316756560) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316754336) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316753280) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316752400) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316741104) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316747872) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316745216) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316749680) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316743488) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316743520) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316748960) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316740768) !Backup Set 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format inconsistency (2 at 316686608) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316684816) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316684848) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316678272) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316680736) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316681072) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316679296) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316676544) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316677696) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316681984) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316674416) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316674448) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316671776) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316672880) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316649152) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316651440) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316673760) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316648208) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316647120) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316645360) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316645392) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316642960) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316633616) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316632240) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316639088) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316638096) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316637584) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316634240) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316640896) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316640928) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316630528) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316629504) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316628640) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316625696) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316624768) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316617104) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316624432) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316619808) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316619840) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316617584) !Backup Set 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format inconsistency (2 at 316536256) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316535136) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316533088) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316533120) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316530000) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316525264) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316527520) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316525504) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316523888) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316518592) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316519744) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316521584) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316521616) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316516976) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316515856) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316514976) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316512656) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316511648) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316508240) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316511248) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316507104) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316507136) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316503424) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316504736) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316505072) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316499248) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316496896) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316498864) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316500048) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316493472) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316493504) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316495744) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316492352) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316491600) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316489552) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316488416) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316487376) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316485232) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316483552) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316483584) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316481200) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316479520) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316478640) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316476256) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316475168) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316474032) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316472976) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316471184) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316471216) (still running)
  13. Don Lee

    Out of memory?

    The trouble with virtual memory is that all the statistics you get with the various tools don't tell you where in the code someone decided that there is not enough. I don't think it was Safari - it wasn't running. I also don't think it was actually "out". There are a number of categories for memory in Activity Monitor. There is the "locked" red memory, the yellow "active", the blue "inactive" and the green "free. At the time of the failure, there was no green, but probably 5 GB of "blue" (inactive). I believe that the "inactive" is mostly the system cache - ready o be freed at a moment's notice. I think it is much more likely that there is a Retro bug in there where some bad calculation or garbage number is calculating the required memory in the terabytes, and when requested, it fails. I ended up running one of these twice, nd they failed at exactly the same point - at the end of the first tape.
  14. Don Lee

    No way to move "disk" media sets

    I want to emphasize that this inability to use a backup set if it has moved is sometimes both unexpected and ugly. Consider this case: I have my backup storage on external firewire disks. I want to move that storage to a replacement machine, or to a different machine. It is not obvious that the "disk" sets will be completely useless in the new environment unless I can ensure that the full path to the disk is identical to what it was on the old machine. For me, this is the case - I want to move storage from one machine to another. The current machine is running Retro 6. The new machine is running Retro 9. I have mounted the disk via AFP to do some conversions of retro 6 sets to retro 9, but I have to ensure that I do not set up any disk sets, because if I do, when I move the disk to the new machine, the sets may be useless.
  15. Don Lee

    Tape stops responding after error

    Addendum to this story..... I re-tried the rebuild, and got a similar error again. This time, I was here to watch it, and noted that the tape stopped responding when it "gave up" on reading it and skipped to the next tape. However, this most recent time, the error messages had not appeared in the log when it offered me to move on to the next tape. I ejected the "bad" tape, and put in the next one in the set. At that point, the tape drive appeared to be hung again, with the retro device manager saying that the drive was empty. Believing that I needed to let some other operations finnish before restarting the engine, I left the tape in the drive, and about 45 minutes later, I noticed that the rebuild had resumed. In the log, I now see the errors, like before. + Executing Rebuild at 4/28/12 (Activity Thread 1) To Backup Set iCompute11 [001]... !Trouble reading: "1-iCompute11 [001]" (649462), error -206 ( drive reported a failure: dirty heads, bad media, etc.) !Trouble reading: "1-iCompute11 [001]" (649462), error -206 ( drive reported a failure: dirty heads, bad media, etc.) !Trouble reading: "1-iCompute11 [001]" (649462), error -206 ( drive reported a failure: dirty heads, bad media, etc.) !Trouble positioning: "1-iCompute11 [001]" (649462), error -206 ( drive reported a failure: dirty heads, bad media, etc.) !Trouble reading: "1-iCompute11 [001]" (649462), error -206 ( drive reported a failure: dirty heads, bad media, etc.) !Trouble positioning: "1-iCompute11 [001]" (649462), error -206 ( drive reported a failure: dirty heads, bad media, etc.) !Trouble reading: "1-iCompute11 [001]" (649462), error -206 ( drive reported a failure: dirty heads, bad media, etc.) !Trouble positioning: "1-iCompute11 [001]" (649462), error -206 ( drive reported a failure: dirty heads, bad media, etc.) !Trouble reading: "1-iCompute11 [001]" (649462), error -206 ( drive reported a failure: dirty heads, bad media, etc.) !Trouble positioning: "1-iCompute11 [001]" (649462), error -206 ( drive reported a failure: dirty heads, bad media, etc.) Additional error information for device "HP DAT DDS-DC" [0:0], Sense > f0 00 03 00 00 00 04 0e 00 00 00 00 11 00 00 00 00 8d (぀灒翿 |぀灒翿 |぀灒翿 )
  16. I spoke too soon. On the third tape, I got some errors. The output in the log is different, though. With 9.0.1, I ended up with zero files in the rebuilt catalog. With 9.0.2, I have 2940 files. Much better! I'd be curious to see whether running it again under 9.0.2 would produce yet another variation on behavior, but I don't have time. My log with 9.0.1.401: + Executing Rebuild at 4/26/12 (Activity Thread 1) To Backup Set MercyShare11 [010]... !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 1884360320) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308217920) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308215904) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308214864) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308213664) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308212656) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308211616) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308210544) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308209712) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308207408) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308206336) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308205264) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308204176) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308202304) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308202336) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308200048) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308199136) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308198384) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308196304) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308195344) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308194384) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308193312) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308191568) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308191600) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308189248) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308188144) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308187328) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308185008) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308183968) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308183040) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308181888) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308179552) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308179584) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308177312) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308176272) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308175408) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308173104) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308170592) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308169456) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308167536) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308165536) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308165568) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308162960) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308161872) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308160960) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308158624) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308157664) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308156672) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308155536) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308153728) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308153760) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308151280) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308150176) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308149344) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308147024) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308145984) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308144848) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308143664) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308141840) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308141872) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308139632) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308138640) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308137888) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308135664) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308134528) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308133408) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308132288) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308130512) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308130544) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308128224) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308127184) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308126304) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308123968) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308122672) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308121664) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308120624) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308118768) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308118800) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308116304) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308114560) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308113808) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308111616) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308110528) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308109536) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 1884360320) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308106144) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308105024) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308103840) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308101984) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308100896) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308099744) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308098768) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308097136) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308097168) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308094672) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308093072) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308092192) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308089936) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308088976) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308088000) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308086960) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308085280) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308085312) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308083008) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308081808) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308079728) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308077264) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308076176) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308075088) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308074000) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308072288) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308072320) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308069776) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308068752) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308067952) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308065136) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308063696) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308062320) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308061168) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308059424) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308059456) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308056944) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308055824) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308054880) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308052688) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308051744) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308050752) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308049696) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308047936) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308047968) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308045392) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308044400) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308043504) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308041232) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308040160) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308039104) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308037984) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308036272) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308036304) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308033968) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308032960) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308032080) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308029712) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308027760) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308026736) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308025216) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308023392) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308023424) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308020864) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308019808) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308019008) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308016736) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308015712) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308014752) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308013792) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308012048) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308012080) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308009632) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308008688) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308007808) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308005536) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308004480) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308002320) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 308001264) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307997856) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307997888) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307995680) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307994576) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 1884360320) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307993728) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307990416) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307989296) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307988400) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307987280) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307986192) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307984320) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307984352) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307981936) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307981040) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307980160) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307977760) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307976720) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307975696) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307974016) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307972304) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307972336) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307969808) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307968864) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307968000) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307965728) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307964640) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307963536) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307962400) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307960656) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307960688) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307958272) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307957200) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307956416) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307953536) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 307952560) 4/26/12 2:28:29 PM: Execution completed successfully Duration: 04:44:27 (00:26:22 idle/loading/preparing) + Executing Unloading media... at 4/26/12 4/26/12 6:52:27 PM: Execution completed successfully and now my log with 9.0.2.107: + Executing Rebuild at 4/26/12 (Activity Thread 1) To Backup Set MercyShare11 [010]... !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286205456) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286206288) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286207216) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286208144) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286209072) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286210000) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286210928) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286211856) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286212784) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286213712) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286214640) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286215568) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286216496) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286217424) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286218352) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286219280) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286220208) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286221136) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286222064) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286222992) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286223920) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286224848) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286225776) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286226704) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286227632) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286228560) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286229488) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286230416) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286231344) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286232272) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 286233200) 4/27/12 2:23:42 PM: Execution completed successfully Completed: 2940 files, 38.2 GB Performance: 151.9 MB/minute Duration: 14:53:16 (10:35:28 idle/loading/preparing)
  17. Don Lee

    Looking for users' opinions of Retrospect 9

    I saw lots and lots of bugs in 8.x. Some were cosmetic, but there were things that didn't work, and crashes, too. So far, I have no major complaints about v9. I have not gone back and compared my notes, but it feels like all the major problems are fixed, and many of the cosmetic problems are addressed. I have seen some anomalies that I have not yet resolved, but it looks like a definite improvement over v8, and is also up to where I am anxious to have it replace my v6.1 server because it is stable enough, much faster, and does things (like grooming) that I have wanted Retro to do for years.
  18. I have wanted to upgrade my servers to retro 9 for a long time, and now that I am doing so, am really pleased that in my long-term back operations, Retro is doing exactly what I want. I have always wanted to "distill" my periodic backup sets to a smaller number of larger sets over time, as the backups aged. I wanted to keep all my snapshots, though. For reliability, I start new sets every month or quarter, and this results in duplication of data. Retro 9 will distill that duplication out, and leave me with just what I need when I copy the data off to archive sets. Grooming looks like it will do what I want even on existing sets without copying them. Nice work, guys.
  19. Retro 9.0.1.401 - copying 3 tape sets to a single disk set. End of log says that operation completed. Crash log attached. Interestingly, when the engine crashed, evidence of the "activity" evaporated. Only the log entries show that I did the copy. I have not yet "repaired" the disk set. I presume that it actually finished, but I can't be sure.... Tail end of the log looks like this. Note the confusion, as though it was flushed out of order..... + Normal backup using Backup Assistant - 4/26/12 10:43 AM at 4/26/12 (Activity Thread 2) To Backup Set little2... - 4/26/12 10:45:58 AM: Copying sbin 4/26/12 10:46:01 AM: Snapshot stored, 82 KB 4/26/12 10:46:02 AM: Comparing sbin 4/26/12 10:46:04 AM: Execution completed successfully Completed: 64 files, 5.4 MB Performance: 314 MB/minute (305.7 copy, 322.3 compare) Duration: 00:00:06 (00:00:03 idle/loading/preparing) + Executing Restore Assistant - 4/26/12 10:48 AM at 4/26/12 (Activity Thread 2) To volume zrestore-junk... ****** Warning: volume "zrestore-junk" has the "Ignore ownership" setting enabled. ****** - 4/26/12 10:49:48 AM: Restoring from little1, Snapshot sbin, 4/26/12 10:45:00 AM 4/26/12 10:54:35 AM: Execution stopped by operator Remaining: 1 files, 38 KB Completed: 0 files, 0 B Performance: 0 MB/minute Duration: 00:04:47 (00:04:47 idle/loading/preparing) + Executing Unloading media... at 4/26/12 4/26/12 11:38:58 AM: Execution completed successfully + Executing Unloading media... at 4/26/12 4/26/12 1:43:58 PM: Execution completed successfully + Executing Rebuild at 4/26/12 (Activity Thread 1) To Backup Set MercyShare11 [010]... !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 1884360320) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 312411984) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 312412976) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 312413856) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 312414736) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 312415456) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 312416384) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 312417312) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 312418240) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 312419168) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 312420096) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 312421024) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 312421952) (bunches and bunches of these.....) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317841008) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317841936) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317842864) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317843824) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317844752) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317845680) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317846608) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317847536) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317848464) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317849392) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317850320) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317851248) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317852176) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317858736) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 317859648) 4/26/12 2:28:29 PM: Execution completed successfully Duration: 04:44:27 (00:26:22 idle/loading/preparing) + Executing Unloading media... at 4/26/12 4/26/12 6:52:27 PM: Execution completed successfully + Retrospect version 9.0.1.401 Launched at 4/26/12 7:59:04 PM (not clear from the log here is that the copy-tape-to-disk operation copied 6 tapes and thousands of files to the disk set, and there is no evidence of that in the log.....) RetroEngine_2012-04-26-195900_virtue.crash.zip
  20. Don Lee

    No way to move "disk" media sets

    I'm less interested in manipulating the internals of the set than I am in dealing with the case where the full path to the media set member(s) moves for reasons not related to my direct action - like renaming a directory containing the disk set. This is more likely to happen by accident, and it effectiively completely erases your backup data, unless you can change the name back.
  21. Although I did not get a lot of experience with this setup, I briefly had both v8 and v9 engines, and had both the v8 and v9 consoles installed on the same machine to control them. I did not notice any major issues with this setup, as long as I made sure to use the right console with the right engine.
  22. This logfile from my copy operation (DDS tape rebuilt from Retro 6 -> Disk media set) with Retro 9.0.1.401 shows some questionable attributes. + Executing tape-to-disk at 4/24/12 (Activity Thread 1) To Backup Set + Executing tape-to-disk at 4/24/12 (Activity Thread 1) To Backup Set MercyShare10-v9d... - 4/24/12 10:39:29 AM: Transferring from MercyShare10 [007] !Can't load source session tree for 9/25/10 1:00:05 PM, error -2249 ( could not find session) 4/24/12 11:24:16 AM: 1 execution errors Completed: 65 files, 1.7 GB Performance: 93.9 MB/minute Duration: 00:44:47 (00:25:50 idle/loading/preparing) - 4/24/12 11:24:16 AM: Verifying MercyShare10-v9d 4/24/12 11:24:58 AM: Execution completed successfully Remaining: 1 files, 0 B Completed: 64 files, 70,657 TB Performance: 159,835,728 MB/minute Duration: 00:00:41 (00:00:02 idle/loading/preparing) The script has two sources, each a tape media set containing about 3100 files, and 36 GB of data. There is considerable duplication between the two sets, so the second set is not expected to copy over much data beyond the changed files in the later snaps. The main thing I notice is that the amount of data moved is clearly wrong, both in the number of files, and also the total data. The first rate (93 MB/min) is reasonable, but the other (159 TB/min) is a little off.
  23. The sources in this case were recently rebuilt retro v6 catalogs/sets. I am repeating this on other sets,and should report again.
  24. Rebuilding tapes is not a quick operation. I have rebuilt 4 sets, and am starting the copy operations. All 4 tape sets ((9 tapes) have the "!Backup Set format inconsistency (x at yyyyyyyyyy)" messages. x is 2, or 4. yyyyyy is a large number. (hundreds of millions) Also of note: The last rebuild had quite a few of these messages, and came out "zero length", with no files in it, and zero "size' according to the "Media Set" display. The ones that rebuilt with content looked like this in the log: !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 315766848) !Backup Set format inconsistency (4 at 315762384) 4/23/12 2:58:15 PM: Execution completed successfully Completed: 3154 files, 34 GB Performance: 150.1 MB/minute Duration: 03:54:35 (00:03:02 idle/loading/preparing) The empty one looked like this: !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316258912) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316258944) !Backup Set format inconsistency (2 at 316256624) 4/23/12 9:53:27 PM: Execution completed successfully Duration: 06:52:36 (02:52:09 idle/loading/preparing) Starting the reload/copy.....
  25. I have also found that the rebuilt retro 6 backup sets lose some/many of their snapshots, so although you have access to the files in the backups, it is often not possible to do a "full" backup from them, or to restore in certain scenarios that require the snapshots.
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