Mang Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Thoroughly confused on this for some reason, I'm sure I'm just not thinking about it correcty. My client, running version 6 would like to tape the Raid attached to their xserve. They have two sets of tapes for their library each with 6 tapes and 1 cleaning tape. They want to take tapes offsite each friday. The have 2 sets of tapes. So, I set up one backup set with M-Th as normal and Fri as recycle. I told them to swap out the tapes on Friday morning. That night the full runs on the new set and the following M-Th gets all the changed data. The cycle repeats next Friday. Last Friday the Full ran no problem, but tonight (Monday) the Normal backup stopped, looking for a tape name that does not exist . I thought Retrospect would erase the tapes as necessary? Maybe I need two backup sets? Does the client need to erase the tapes after loading the new set on Friday? Thanks 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 They have 2 sets of tapes. ... Maybe I need two backup sets? Does the client need to erase the tapes after loading the new set on Friday? Yes, two backup sets. No, no erase should be necessary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mang Posted September 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Thanks very much for your reply. Here is what I have now: My concern is that the Friday full will run fine, but Monday will ask again for new media because it will see files on the tapes? This is what it was doing when I just had the ONE backup set: and here are the tapes in the library: Somehwere on those tapes is last Friday's Recycle/Full backup Thanks again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 You need to set up "repeating interval" and set to run every 2 weeks on fridays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mang Posted September 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Ok, I think I follow. Here is what I have now. The manual said something about having to also include a New Media schedule, but I don't think that applies here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I think that looks correct. Please keep us updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mang Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Hello again - so it seems that I have something wrong in my script setup. The Friday recyces labels all the tapes, and then does a Full. However, the Saturday scheduled Normal yields this: Here is the schedule: My hope was that the scheduled backup would just copy files to wherever they needed to go - not sure why it is looking for a "7"Thanks for any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Check the members properties of the Media Set. It looks like this on the Windows version: What would be interesting to see is when your members are "created" and how much data there is on each one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mang Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Thanks for your reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 It looks like you have more data than will fit on 6 tapes, so Retrospect asks for another tape. What kind of tapes? LTO 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mang Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Hmm.. that sure would seem like the obvious answer - I'll check into that. These are LTO3 tapes, I'm using hardware compression, but perhaps this is not working. The Friday full ran and completed, backing up approx 2.7T I'm going to turn on software compression for tonight and see what happens, but I'm pretty sure it's going to fail because: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart_T Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I don't think you can turn off hardware compression. At least it's turned on by default and it's hard to turn off. Since the tapes hold 400GB of (native) data you already have compression on. Software compression is for disk media sets. The compressed capacity of the tapes depends on two things: How "compressable" the data is and how fast it reaches the tape drive. Many file types today is already compressed: Audio, video and images to start with. Then PDF files and word processing documents are often compressed. Files that are already compressed can't be compressed more. What is easiest to compress is pure text files. If data isn't fed fast enough to the tape drive, blank (useless) blocks are added to the tapes while waiting for more data. This is much better (for many reasons) than having to stop the tape motion, reverse the tape a bit and start the tape again when data has arrived. Many small files are slower than fewer large files (for the same amount of bytes). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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